topic Re: A new computer in Mathcad

A new computer

Fred_Kohlhepp — Sat, 17 Aug 2024 11:13:28 GMT

Is there a way to install Prime 4.0 on a new computer?

Re: A new computer

Werner_E — Sat, 17 Aug 2024 15:57:22 GMT

You can't download the installation files for P4 from PTC anymore, but if you did way back and kept the files, I guess you should be able to use them.
I don't expect PTC to send you a licence file for a 30 day trial period - for legal reasons they can't do so anymore (muPad from Mathworks). But I think you will end up with Prime Express right away.

have you already tried to install P4 on a new machine and experienced troubles?

Re: A new computer

Fred_Kohlhepp — Sat, 17 Aug 2024 17:03:23 GMT

Just have the computer, haven’t tried to install any version yet. PTC will allow back to version 7 (I think).

My old (tired but still functional) computer has 4 thru 9; I’ve been thinking of trying to copy the program files of 4.0 from that one. Version 10 express would be functionally equiv to 4 express except for the banner . . .

Re: A new computer

Werner_E — Sat, 17 Aug 2024 19:35:38 GMT

Yes, PTC can't provide installation files for Prime version prior to 7 as the older versions are bundled with that old muPAd version and PTC has no rights anymore to distribute them.

If you still have the Prime 4 installation file, I would give it a try right ahead (before you install any newer version).
Simply copying the files doesn't necessarily work - but it would be worth a try if you can't find the installation file for P4.

The huge banner in P10 Express sure is a reason to rather use P4E. The only way to get rid of it in P10 (apart from buying an annual license) would be to edit two DLL files with a hex editor, and that would most likely be a violation of the license terms.

Good luck!

Re: A new computer

MartinHanak — Mon, 19 Aug 2024 06:52:01 GMT

Hi,

the following suggestion is not very elegant ... but I hope it will work.

You can virtualize your "old" computer and run it as virtual machine on your "new" computer.

Re: A new computer

Werner_E — Mon, 19 Aug 2024 07:39:03 GMT

@MartinHanak wrote:

Hi,

the following suggestion is not very elegant ... but I hope it will work.

You can virtualize your "old" computer and run it as virtual machine on your "new" computer.

I fear that the license would not be accepted because of a different MAC (not even if you assign the virtual NIC the same MAC the license is bound to).

Re: A new computer

MartinHanak — Mon, 19 Aug 2024 07:45:21 GMT

@Werner_E wrote:

@MartinHanak wrote:

Hi,

the following suggestion is not very elegant ... but I hope it will work.

You can virtualize your "old" computer and run it as virtual machine on your "new" computer.

I fear that the license would not be accepted because of a different MAC (not even if you assign the virtual NIC the same MAC the license is bound to).

Hi,

Note 1: Mathcad Prime Express doe not have any license file.

Note 2: VirtualBox enables you set any MAC address for virtual machine and it works the same way as MAC address of physical network card.

Re: A new computer

Werner_E — Mon, 19 Aug 2024 08:51:23 GMT

Yes, I forgot that Fred is using Express - so the license file does not matter.

Concerning Note 2 I am not sure. I think I once tried in the past and while Mathcad (15) worked OK, Prime refused to do so.
Same is true for using a single user license via a RDP connection - Mathcad works, Prime doesn't.

Re: A new computer

skunks — Fri, 23 Aug 2024 08:05:41 GMT

Hi Fred,

"...Version 10 express would be functionally equiv to 4 express except for the banner . . . "

I would better install Prime 3.1, where the banner in the footer can be covered by a picture 😂

Re: A new computer

Fred_Kohlhepp — Fri, 23 Aug 2024 12:10:06 GMT

Version 4 has the same banner as 3.1 (I believe). The problem lies in the fact that the installation program for either of those is no longer available on the website.

Re: A new computer

skunks — Tue, 27 Aug 2024 07:49:15 GMT

Hi Fred,

In version 4 the banner cannot be hidden, but in version 3.1 it works.

Creo Parametric 3.0 installation also includes Prime 3.1. So if you can get a Creo Parametric (3.0 or 4.0) installation...

I have a CD-ROM for Prime 3.1

Re: A new computer

LucMeekes — Tue, 27 Aug 2024 17:32:56 GMT

Here's Prime 4 express with the banner exposed:

as well as hidden in the footer:

Success!
Luc

Re: A new computer

skunks — Wed, 28 Aug 2024 06:11:59 GMT

🤔 what happens during PDF export?

Re: A new computer

LucMeekes — Wed, 28 Aug 2024 09:30:12 GMT

Point taken.

But with a text box filled with spaces it works, if you set the text properties to a coloured background (I used light green here, can also be white):

in pdf:

Success!
Luc

Re: A new computer

skunks — Wed, 28 Aug 2024 10:51:42 GMT

Mathcad Express 3.1 makes it easy (example attached).
Of course we use Prime 10, we have 4 leased licenses.