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    <title>topic Re: Surface Symbol Orientation changes after &amp;quot;edit Attachment&amp;quot; in 3D Part &amp; Assembly Design</title>
    <link>https://community.ptc.com/t5/3D-Part-Assembly-Design/Surface-Symbol-Orientation-changes-after-quot-edit-Attachment/m-p/897946#M130932</link>
    <description>&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hi Vivek N&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Can this be done after the topic has been created?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Regards&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Pius&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 04 Sep 2023 09:37:53 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Pius</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2023-09-04T09:37:53Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Surface Symbol Orientation changes after "edit Attachment"</title>
      <link>https://community.ptc.com/t5/3D-Part-Assembly-Design/Surface-Symbol-Orientation-changes-after-quot-edit-Attachment/m-p/896208#M130820</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;If I create a 2D drafting view, derived from a 3D Combination State the surface symbols describing the surface of a groove side walls, the symbols cannot be moved (dragged by mouse).&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;So far I can change the position only by the option of "edit Attachment" in 2D drafting, selecting the belonging groove-width value, then the position on the whiteness line and then the corresponding geometry.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;But now the Surface Finish symbol changes it direction, now it is pointing away from the surface.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Surface Finish Annotations in 3D modeling&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="PB_10597032_0-1692961413860.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.ptc.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/88286i207B889A9683E067/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="PB_10597032_0-1692961413860.png" alt="PB_10597032_0-1692961413860.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Surface Finish Annotation in 2D drafting detailed view.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The two vertical symbols cannot be moved by mouse dragging. Therefore I try to change its attachment.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="PB_10597032_1-1692961526357.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.ptc.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/88287iD63FBB491B73984A/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="PB_10597032_1-1692961526357.png" alt="PB_10597032_1-1692961526357.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;But now the symbol points in wrong direction.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="PB_10597032_3-1692961836952.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.ptc.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/88289i7BD66CA70983D2CC/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="PB_10597032_3-1692961836952.png" alt="PB_10597032_3-1692961836952.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;As you can see the symbol for the bottom of the groove can be moved by dragging.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Does anybody have an hint how to move these Surface Finish symbols by mouse dragging or how to change the orientation of the symbols after the&amp;nbsp;"edit Attachment" operation.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Regards&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;PB&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 06 Sep 2023 11:33:34 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ptc.com/t5/3D-Part-Assembly-Design/Surface-Symbol-Orientation-changes-after-quot-edit-Attachment/m-p/896208#M130820</guid>
      <dc:creator>Pius</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-09-06T11:33:34Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Surface Symbol Orientation changes after "edit Attachment"</title>
      <link>https://community.ptc.com/t5/3D-Part-Assembly-Design/Surface-Symbol-Orientation-changes-after-quot-edit-Attachment/m-p/897944#M130931</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi &lt;SPAN style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);color:rgb(46,46,46);font-size:13px;"&gt;PB_10597032&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Thank you for your question.&amp;nbsp;&lt;BR /&gt;I’d like to recommend to bring more details and context to your &lt;A href="https://community.ptc.com/t5/3D-Part-Assembly-Design/Surface-Symbol-Orientation-changes-after-quot-edit-Attachment/m-p/896208#M130820" target="_blank"&gt;initial inquiry&lt;/A&gt;. Like you could mention the Product name &amp;amp; version details in the topic.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;This will increase your chances to receive meaningful help from other Community members.&amp;nbsp;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Regards,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Vivek N&lt;BR /&gt;Community Moderation Team.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 04 Sep 2023 09:30:31 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ptc.com/t5/3D-Part-Assembly-Design/Surface-Symbol-Orientation-changes-after-quot-edit-Attachment/m-p/897944#M130931</guid>
      <dc:creator>vnamboodheri</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-09-04T09:30:31Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Surface Symbol Orientation changes after "edit Attachment"</title>
      <link>https://community.ptc.com/t5/3D-Part-Assembly-Design/Surface-Symbol-Orientation-changes-after-quot-edit-Attachment/m-p/897946#M130932</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hi Vivek N&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Can this be done after the topic has been created?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Regards&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Pius&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 04 Sep 2023 09:37:53 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ptc.com/t5/3D-Part-Assembly-Design/Surface-Symbol-Orientation-changes-after-quot-edit-Attachment/m-p/897946#M130932</guid>
      <dc:creator>Pius</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-09-04T09:37:53Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Surface Symbol Orientation changes after "edit Attachment"</title>
      <link>https://community.ptc.com/t5/3D-Part-Assembly-Design/Surface-Symbol-Orientation-changes-after-quot-edit-Attachment/m-p/898429#M130964</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'm just adding some more information to above description.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;We use creo parametrics 8.0. Our intension is to apply MBD in the 3D model, creating Combination States which then are reused in 2D drafting.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;for clarification of above situation, here some more details:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;1st:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;selected surface symbol I can not move along the witness line, it only can be moved within the area of the groove bottom face (to which it belongs).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Pius_0-1693980172441.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.ptc.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/88956iDB97EFB17F82A1D5/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="Pius_0-1693980172441.png" alt="Pius_0-1693980172441.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;In 2D, this surface symbol can be moved along the surface symbol.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Pius_1-1693981400376.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.ptc.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/88957i0C3DD29F1D0771F5/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="Pius_1-1693981400376.png" alt="Pius_1-1693981400376.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Question:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; is there a option to move this symbol in 3D to a position along the witness line (or let's say, along extrapolated intersection between radial face of groove bottom and 3D section)?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;2nd:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;In 3D I can move surface symbols attached to the axial faces of the groove to any position on a plane coincident to the groove face.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Pius_2-1693981688959.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.ptc.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/88958i9F7CEFA7EA3C612E/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="Pius_2-1693981688959.png" alt="Pius_2-1693981688959.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;But if I use the corresponding Combination State in 2D this surface symbol cannot be moved anywhere. The position of the surface symbols remains rigid.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The only option I know is to use the "Edit Attachment" function and choose the witness line as new attachment.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Pius_3-1693982116515.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.ptc.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/88959i35EA07EADBD6FEE6/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="Pius_3-1693982116515.png" alt="Pius_3-1693982116515.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;But, if I use this function, the orientation of the surface symbol changes from "towards the face" to opposite.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="Pius_4-1693982362634.png" style="width: 400px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.ptc.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/88960i1D8084AC0F6D0C10/image-size/medium?v=v2&amp;amp;px=400" role="button" title="Pius_4-1693982362634.png" alt="Pius_4-1693982362634.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;And this is a pity!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Question:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Is there an option to avoid the change of the symbols orientation?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Does anybody have an hint?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 06 Sep 2023 06:43:18 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.ptc.com/t5/3D-Part-Assembly-Design/Surface-Symbol-Orientation-changes-after-quot-edit-Attachment/m-p/898429#M130964</guid>
      <dc:creator>Pius</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-09-06T06:43:18Z</dc:date>
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