DEFAULT_CALLOUT_FORMAT_DATA

[dveljkovic]

As soon as I add "DEFAULT_CALLOUT_FORMAT_DATA" to the ISO.hol file, Creo 5.0.6 does not open that file and is not visible in hole dialog. I do not add anything else. Anyone knows why this is happening?

[MartinHanak]

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@dveljkovic wrote:

As soon as I add "DEFAULT_CALLOUT_FORMAT_DATA" to the ISO.hol file, Creo 5.0.6 does not open that file and is not visible in hole dialog. I do not add anything else. Anyone knows why this is happening?

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Hi,

did you read http://support.ptc.com/help/creo/creo_pma/usascii/index.html#page/part_modeling/part_modeling/part_nine_sub/Formatting_Thread_Notes.html page ?

Please upload your ISO.hol file.

[dveljkovic]

Hi Martin.

Yes, I did. And everything started from there. I made file like what it says in mentioned link but I got into problem hol_1 file not showing up. At first, I though because I use Notepad++ and CR = Carriage Return and LF = Line Feed and how Creo reads text file (in this case hol file) is where the problem lies, but it is not.

Then I realised that as soon as I add DEFAULT_CALLOUT_FORMAT_DATA Creo does not show it in hole dialog. I did the same for ISO.hol and same happened.

[pausob]

I'm not sure this is the issue, but in your sample file, the table that defines the callouts is missing.

The line DEFAULT_CALLOUT_FORMAT_DATA should be followed by callout specifications.

You can specify a different callout depending on hole configuration.

Can you load in the hole table if you modify your example ISO_1.hol and add these 2 lines:

DEFAULT_CALLOUT_FORMAT_DATA
HOLE_TYPE  THREAD DRILLED_DEPTH THREAD_DEPTH CSINK CBORE EXIT_CSINK CALLOUT_FORMAT
TAPPED     YES    NA            NA           NO    NO    NO         &DIAMETER[.3]

(also, I think reloading .hol files requires Creo restart)

[dveljkovic]

I had the whole list below DEFAULT_CALLOUT_FORMAT_DATA and that's where issue started. Then, I put only DEFAULT_CALLOUT_FORMAT_DATA to test it and issue was there. I wasted 5 hours to solve this issue to no available. I was restarting Creo everytime. I attached original file I made first.

[pausob]

Ok, I had another look.

I tried your file and it wasn't showing up on my lists either.

I thought it's maybe in your headers as they look different in my system.  So I changed your header to this:

TABLE_DATA
PRO_VERSION      24
THREAD_NAME      VAN_ISO
THREAD_SERIES    VAN_ISO
CLASS            H
TABLE_UNITS      metric 
DEPTH_RATIO      1.25
CALLOUT_FORMAT   CALLOUT NOT DEFINED - EXAMINE FILE VAN_ISO.HOL


THREAD_DATA
...

This still didn't work.

So I looked at your DEFAULT_CALLOUT_FORMAT_DATA table again and erased the whole thing and "cleaned up" the first line:

DEFAULT_CALLOUT_FORMAT_DATA
HOLE_TYPE  THREAD  DRILLED_DEPTH  THREAD_DEPTH  CSINK  CBORE  EXIT_CSINK  CALLOUT_FORMAT
TAPPED     YES     VAR            VAR           NO     NO     NO          &PATTERN_NO{0:X} &FASTENER_ID x &THREAD <CTRL-a>x<CTRL-b> &THREAD_DEPTH / TAP DRILL &DRILL_DEPTH

Note that data is lined up to the header row using spaces (no tabs)

This 2nd change made it show up.

[dveljkovic]

Thank you for the help. I will try to do like you proposed now. But I remember aligning everything ...

[dveljkovic]

It works now. Thank you all for the help! I attached working file. I guess THREAD_SERIES and CLASS must have hole file name, in this case it is ISO100.

[AS_11970356]

Hello, Thank you so much for the file. It works perfectly for me and you helped me. But I am not able to get the Counterbore and Countersunk shown in the notes. Did that work for you? I see it is included in the file but doesn't show up when I add a counterbore or countersink.