NPT/NPTF thread hole files callout data

[AJ_TROGLIO]

I'm going thru the hole files editing the notes and customizing them to our needs.  I got to the NPT and NPTF hole files and started looking thru the .hol definition and noticed there was no information for the DEFAULT_CALLOUT_FORMAT_DATA section.  However, I'm getting the note as defined below.

I'm wondering where it is getting this data as I'd like to edit it slightly. 

I've looked that all the possible locations a .hol file could be and don't see where it could be getting this callout data. Our hole_parameter_file_path config option is pointing into Windchill and the callout data is not defined in those files.  I looked in the <loadpoint>\Common Files\text\hole location as well as my creo home location and the NPT and NPTF hole files do not exist there.

Creo 8.0.0.0

Thanks...

[tbraxton]

Assuming you have a local installation, look in this path: C:\Program Files\PTC\Creo 9.0.8.0\Common Files\ORIG\text\hole

The included *.hol definition files should be in this location.

If you are using Creo+ then I have no idea where the files are stored.

[AJ_TROGLIO]

Yea I don't have that particular location in my Creo 8 installation.   Only other location I see for .hol files is;

       C:\Program Files\PTC\Creo 8.0.0.0\Common Files\ifx\text\hole

But the NPT, NPTF. hol files were not in there. 

Thanks..

[tbraxton]

It appears you have IFX installed. I have no experience with that module. Perhaps this thread will offer some insight into how .hol files are handled.

New functionality for hole charts in IFX - PTC Community

[BenLoosli]

Try this folder: c:\Program Files\PTC\Creo 8.0.0.0\Common Files\text\hole

[AJ_TROGLIO]

Ben

Yea that's the location I've been using to test hole files as it's one of the directories searched automatically.  No NPT files here

Here's a look into the path defined by hole_parameter_file_path.  NPT and NPTF is in there but when i looked inside those files, there was no callout data.

Partial NPT.hol file contents

Still searching for other possible causes but has me mystified at this point.

 

 

[BenLoosli]

It looks like your files got moved into Windchill instead of being uploaded as a copy.

If you look at the other .hol files (unc or unf), they have no callout format, either.

I think PTC is formatting the data in the software unless you have a format defined in the .hol file which overrides the 'default' formatting.

Article - CS28399 - How to customize the standard hole note in Creo Parametric

[AJ_TROGLIO]

We put them into WC by design.  I checked the other hole files and they all have a custom callout defined, because, I defined them all.

As  you say, it appears Creo has some sort of default callout in software when no custom callout is created.  I would have expected some sort of string defined for CALLOUT_FORMAT I show in the image I pasted.  That's odd since there are a number of parameters in play.  Looks like I'll just need to come up w/ my own.  I was trying to avoid that as it can be tough to figure out all the parameters in use. 

Thanks...