O.S. SYSTEM MIGRATION

[ptc-593619]

Systems people,

Currently our setup is to use WF3.0 with windows XP 64 bit machines and
our own PDM. Because of updating etc. we are considering migrating to
WF5.0 (still can't get used to the Creo Thingy) and to use WINDOWS 7
operating system. It'll still be 64 bit but we'll also update to IE8.0
and Microsoft Office 2010. Yeah I know, it's about time but that's the
way it is. My question is - whilst appreciating all the advantages, -
has anyone seen any disadvantages to this change. We really want ProE to
work well as this is the productivity software but any other comments
would also be welcome.



Richard A. Black

Lead Design Engineer

Eaton Corporation

440 Murray Hill Road

Southern Pines

NC 28387 USA



tel: 910 695 2905

fax: 910 695 2901

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www.eaton.com




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[bokm9606]

In Reply to Richard Black:

In this case, i think that you are better off on 64bit XP with WF3.0.

I have been unimpressed with the performance (or lack thereof) of wf5.0 on 64 bit Win 7. Not sure if Win7 is the main culprit or not as we upgraded OS, CAD and hardware allat the same time.

It is frustrating when performance on old hardware seems to be superior to performance on new hw due to lousy OS and software updates.

as far ascapabilites of Wf3.0 to 50...wf 5.0 does not offer many competive advantages in my opinion.

Your are better off where you are at..

oh yea, WF5.0 does not play well with Window& unless you revert back to a windows classic theme too...

Systems people,

Currently our setup is to use WF3.0 with windows XP 64 bit machines and
our own PDM. Because of updating etc. we are considering migrating to
WF5.0 (still can't get used to the Creo Thingy) and to use WINDOWS 7
operating system. It'll still be 64 bit but we'll also update to IE8.0
and Microsoft Office 2010. Yeah I know, it's about time but that's the
way it is. My question is - whilst appreciating all the advantages, -
has anyone seen any disadvantages to this change. We really want ProE to
work well as this is the productivity software but any other comments
would also be welcome.



Richard A. Black

Lead Design Engineer

Eaton Corporation

440 Murray Hill Road

Southern Pines

NC 28387 USA



tel: 910 695 2905

fax: 910 695 2901

-

www.eaton.com

[msteffke]

I have been told by Support that WF3.0 is not supported on win7-64. So
you should consider going to WF5. A problem with that is that if you
have any amount of users, you probably wont be able to upgrade the
machines and the Pro all at the same day. So you may have to roll out
the hardware / OS first to all your users, and run WF3 unsupported for a
short while. Then over a night or a weekend upgrade the pro.

[ChrisCollinson]

IF your not changing the hardware then you will see little difference in
performance of proe, we have a mix of 32 and 64 bit machines, the 64 bit
machine are better due to the amount of memory available to the
applications rather than the win32 3gb limit, this is were 64bit helps.

I've been running Win 7 on both 32 and 64 bit with wf3 and see very few
issues even with our IT depts updates and what not,
Win 7 is, and this is only my opinion, as good if not better than XP
especially on older hardware, seemed to us to give the machine a bit more
resource to play with.

Yippeee its Friday

Best Regards

Chris Collinson
CAD Administrator

[dgallup]

If it were me, I would go to WF4 rather than WF5. The awful drawing ribbon interface implementation in WF5 is a total job stopper for me. As others have said, you have to switch off all the eye candy junk in Win7 "Aero" interface to get Pro/E to run decently (any release). There is a button hidden deep in the bowels of Win7 config screens that says OPTIMIZE FOR BEST PERFORMANCE. Push it. All the junk goes away and Pro/E runs & looks much better.

At least you are going to Office 2010. The morons that pass for IT professionals here decided to go to Office 2007 (in 2011?!?!) which has a totally brain dead ribbon interface too. In Office 2010 you can customize it and make it almost as good as Office 2000.

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