Opaque Pro/E functions: Hole tables

[JonathanHodgson]

Fellow Pro/Users,

Can anyone help me get started with Hole Tables in a drawing?

I have a part with a trajectory defined by a pattern table of points,
defined from a coord system in X-Y-Z; and according to the help a Hole
Table has the option:

"Datum Points - Creates a table that lists the locations of datum points
in X, Y, and Z coordinates."

In the Hole Table menu I select Create, Datum Points and then Pro/E asks
me to select a csys. Unfortunately, when I pick the csys the points are
referenced from, it says "Incorrect orientation".

Incorrect to what? I haven't selected any other items for it to be
incorrect to! All assistance gratefully received...

Thanks,
Jonathan
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[JonathanHodgson]

Thanks for the replies so far, but I'm struggling to make sense of the
instructions.

1) The csys needs to be oriented in a particular way - but with respect
to what? I haven't picked a view, or any other feature yet! The csys
I'm picking is offset from the default csys (i.e., oriented the same
way).

2a) There's a reference in the help to the csys being 'coplanar' with
the features to be tabulated - but again, I haven't picked the features
yet, so how does it know that it isn't coplanar with them?

2b) Not only that, but if I'm tabulating points "in X, Y, and Z
coordinates" then it may be impossible to be coplanar with all the
points (and coplanar with fewer than three points is meaningless!).

I'm just not understanding this...

Jonathan

[bfrandsen]

The first general view on your drawing sheet must be oriented, so the XY
plane of the csys you select is planar and oriented with the drawing
sheet. (Paper plane).

Bjarne



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Thanks for the replies so far, but I'm struggling to make sense of the
instructions.

1) The csys needs to be oriented in a particular way - but with respect
to what? I haven't picked a view, or any other feature yet! The csys
I'm picking is offset from the default csys (i.e., oriented the same
way).

2a) There's a reference in the help to the csys being 'coplanar' with
the features to be tabulated - but again, I haven't picked the features
yet, so how does it know that it isn't coplanar with them?

2b) Not only that, but if I'm tabulating points "in X, Y, and Z
coordinates" then it may be impossible to be coplanar with all the
points (and coplanar with fewer than three points is meaningless!).

I'm just not understanding this...

Jonathan

[JonathanHodgson]

Thanks Bjarne - fixed it!

Our drawings almost all have multiple views, so I don't really think of
one particular view as giving the whole drawing an orientation.

Once I'd identified the first view, and created a new csys for the hole
(actually point) table, it worked straight away. The thing about
features being "coplanar" turns out to be a non-issue with points - it
happily listed points scattered along all three dimensions.

It's a shame it insists on listing every point in the part though,
rather than allowing the user to select points, as I had to delete an
extra point which I'd inherited with the model - I couldn't find a
'filter' function either.

Come on, PTC: pattern tables are a really useful tool, so why isn't
there a better / more generic way to show pattern-tabled features in a
table in the drawing?

Anyway, the exploder has the solution once more!

Best regards,
Jonathan

[JonathanHodgson]

[further update]

Well, that explains a few things: the hole table is dumb text (not
parametric). WTHeck, PTC?

Jonathan