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Three bend corner

Gerard_Moba
7-Bedrock

Three bend corner

Three bend corner

Creo Parametric does not have a standard workable way to work with three bend corners
There are some workarounds, but all have issues. I work with Creo 10.0.4.0.
This is my search for a good three bend corner which can be welded.

How it should look after bending

Gerard_Moba_0-1723730621679.png

 

How the flat should look

Gerard_Moba_1-1723730621680.png

 

This way it is easy to weld, with the 0.1mm gap small bend mistakes do not give a problem.

 

 

Option 1

Make quilt

Gerard_Moba_2-1723730621680.png

 

Create offset

Gerard_Moba_3-1723730621680.png

 

Sheetmetal conversion (no rips and bends on all edges)

Gerard_Moba_4-1723730621682.png

 

Surface rip + rip connect (0.1mm rip)

Gerard_Moba_5-1723730621683.png

 

 

Unbend

Gerard_Moba_6-1723730621684.png

 

Chamfer

Gerard_Moba_7-1723730621684.png

 

Bend back

Gerard_Moba_8-1723730621685.png

 

Feature tree from offset and on:

Gerard_Moba_9-1723730621685.png

 

Pro’s

  • Not too many steps to create
  • The 3d looks perfect

Cons

  • Does not work in some cases when one or more of the bends is not 90°
  • After unbend, bend back and then unbend again (sometimes after only one unbend) the result will be this.
    This is not good.
    Gerard_Moba_10-1723730621686.png

     

 

Option 2

Start with quilt but place a point on the line of the middle bend. This point should be at distance of the outer bend diameter +0.1 mm. (if there are only 90° bends) otherwise it should be further.

Gerard_Moba_11-1723730621688.png

 

Create an offset and then start sheetmetal conversion.
Make an edge rip on the middle bend but trim at the point

Gerard_Moba_12-1723730621691.png

 

In the sheetmetal conversion create a rip connect (thickness 0.1)

Gerard_Moba_13-1723730621694.png

 

Problem:
If you look close after unbend the two diagonal lines do not meet.

After making the flat, the laser software gives an error on this.

Gerard_Moba_14-1723730621695.png

 

 

 

With Extend wall features (after unbending) you can make the lines meet in the middle of the bend.
(our dxf generator for the laser cuts does not export the lines of the flat which have zero gap, that is how we want it, also in this case.)

Gerard_Moba_15-1723730621696.png

 

Result:

Gerard_Moba_16-1723730621697.png

Feature tree

Gerard_Moba_26-1723730716179.png

 

 

Pro’s

  • It is the most stable way to do it in Creo Parametric

Problems:

  • This is an over complicated way to make corner reliefs with too many steps
  • When there are non 90° bends it becomes more complicated to make the diagonal lines meet.
  • In 3D it does not look as it would in real life.

Option 3

Make quilt

Create offset

Sheetmetal conversion (no rips and bends on all edges)

Gerard_Moba_17-1723730621699.png

 

Create a sketched rip (exclude bend surface)

Gerard_Moba_18-1723730621700.png

 

Result:

Gerard_Moba_19-1723730621701.png

 

 

Gerard_Moba_20-1723730621703.png

 

Model tree from offset

Gerard_Moba_21-1723730621703.png

 

Pro’s

  • Not many steps
  • Also works easy with non 90° bends

Cons

  • 0.1mm rip not possible
  • Does sometimes not work in combination with other corner reliefs
  • Our Universal worker can’t generate a DXF
  • Because the 0.1mm rip is not possible it is harder to place 3D weld features.

Option 4

Option 4a

Create two bends with Flat feature

Use miter cut with 3 bend corner relief Rip

Gerard_Moba_22-1723730621706.png

 

Flat:

Gerard_Moba_23-1723730621706.png

 

Pro’s

  • Easy to set up

Cons

  • Corner gives problems with laser software or it would burn the corner
  • You need to weld two lines which does not give a nice result
  • Not available with sheetmetal conversion

Option 4b

Gerard_Moba_24-1723730621710.png

 

Flat:

Gerard_Moba_25-1723730621710.png

 

Pro’s

  • Easy to set up
  • Looks alright in 3D

Cons

  • Flat is not good
  • Not available in Sheetmetal conversion
  • Round in the middle is not round but a spline in the flat.
  • With rip gap of 0.1mm the Unbend feature fails (not with 0.5mm)

 

Conclusion

Creo lacks good functionality for three bend corners. None of the options are good.
Does anybody have a better way? It needs to be welded nicely (and sometimes watertight)

 

 

1 REPLY 1

Have you tried flange with extruded relief?

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Created in Creo+ (Build: 11.0.0.1-001).  Same results as Creo 7.0 trial.


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