Weld symbol keeps resetting
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Weld symbol keeps resetting
I'm working on a weld assembly and there's something that's so extremely frustrating, I really need a solution to this.
Whenever I place a weld I get the huge leader with all kind of stuff on it. For example I create a fillet weld all around a part. Ofcourse, like you would expect from Creo Parametric, the automatic All-around option doesn't work so I manually set it to yes. At this point I don't need to see the weld length. I never want to see the > shape at the end of the tail. So for every single weld I need to go to the symbol customization menu and turn off the > shape and the Weld length (which is called style for whatever reason). You can't mapkey this because the menu ID changes every time.
Now comes the fun part. When I add other welds or change other welds that have no relationship whatsoever to the first weld, the whole weld symbol resets. Even its position!
The company that advises us on using this CAD program, told us you have to reattach all your welds after placing them. This sometimes works, but not everytime.
In two days I have made a rather simple weld assembly with about 10-20 welds in it and I swear I have been in the weld customization menu over 100 times and fixing so many other problems with this software, like the measure tool which someone consciously programmed this way and thought it's acceptable but okay whatever.
After a whole year of working with this program it feels more and more like I'm beta testing some unfinished product. I mean even after customizing the symbol I'm just supposed to accept the line for the weld symbol is 10 times longer than need to be, and the note height scales seperately from the weld symbol? Seriously who signed off on this stuff.
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Is this model based welding (using the welding module) or drawing based welding? I don't know anything about model based welding and callouts. This really doesn't seem right.
I don't have this problem when doing weld symbols in drawing and we have our own weld symbol callout that is sized more appropriately.
What version of creo are you using? And what is "the company that advises us on this cad program"? Can you show any examples, video or attach an example file?
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Hey Stephen,
Thanks for replying.
Is this model based welding (using the welding module) or drawing based welding? I don't know anything about model based welding and callouts.
It's the model based welding. We don't use 2D drawings anymore unfortunately.
I don't have this problem when doing weld symbols in drawing and we have our own weld symbol callout that is sized more appropriately.
Do you know if creating your own weld symbol callout is possible for model based welding? Haven't found an option and the advising company (TFH based in The Netherlands) doesn't know of any.
What version of creo are you using? And what is "the company that advises us on this cad program"? Can you show any examples, video or attach an example file?
Using Creo 10. I'm gonna make a video for you later today!
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Had the same issue for ages and always just sucked it up, our Creo provider wasn't sure on what was causing it, and I've seen it mentioned in forum posts a decade old so I'm not optimistic. For us, it's a lost hour every 2-3 weeks or so, so not really the end of the world. But on a personal level it's incredibly annoying to fix 30+ welds, save everything, get 80% of the drawings sorted, and then all the weld symbols decide to reset, you put them all back, finish the drawings off, and they do it again.
That's pulling model based weld symbols from the welding application through to the drawing with show annotations. Never had any issues just sticking weld symbols straight onto the drawings but wanted to start modelling weld, as it's easier to see when something isn't actually weldable in the way you think it is.
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Hi,
ask company that advises you on using Creo Parametric to provide you direct access to PTC Support and discuss the problem with PTC Support.
Martin Hanák
