Where is the Explode > Reset?

[ByDesign]

I opened this Topic a little while ago, and accepted what seemed to be a solution, but it is only a band-aid, not a full solution.  It does not always work.  Since that topic is "Solved" I am opening this as a follow up.

The previous topic is: "Where is the Explode > Reset Component Position Function?"  located at https://community.ptc.com/t5/3D-Part-Assembly-Design/Where-is-the-Explode-gt-Reset-Component-Position-Function/m-p/1017403

The Toggle Explode is misleading as I mentioned in a response on the other thread.  Now, here is an example where the Toggle does not place components back to the original location like the "Explode > Reset" did.  This is as close as I can get.  If I Toggle explode on any of these, it sends them out into space.

Where is the Explode > Reset Position function?

In case you don't know, there was an excellent function for working with explode states called "Reset" which would put the component back to the original place in space, relative to the assembly or subassembly it was in.  If you were manipulating a position, then decided you did not like how things were looking, you simply reset the position - like an undo for all the moves of that particular component or subassembly.

The above model is an example where the "Toggle" fails to achieve what the "Reset" did.  I say "DID" and "WAS" because it appears (from the previous thread and from PTC tech support) the functionality has been removed.  It is possible that PTC has hidden it so well that we can't find it.  I am hoping that one of you smarter people can show me where it is.  Creo 9.0.9.0

Additionally, I don't see how to work with the "Explode State" to see what Creo thinks is exploded or not.  With multiple levels of assemblies and subassemblies it is ridiculous to try to figure it out.  Again, that used to be a simple function in an interactive table making it easy to know exactly what was happening in the model.  Where did that function go?

Please tell me where the "Explode > Reset Position" functionality went.  Thank you.

[ByDesign]

I forgot to ask an important question in the above.  How do you reuse an explode state of a subassembly in the parent assembly explode?

For instance, the decorative piece with all the purplish crystals is a subassembly that has its own explode state.  How do I have that subassembly explode state be part of this top level explode?

Again, that was basic functionality, but I can't find it in Creo.  Thanks for your help.

[MartinHanak]

Hi,

I suggest you to discuss current Creo Explode functionality directly with PTC Support.

[aputman]

Doesn't Copy Position accomplish the same thing?

[ByDesign]

Thank you for the responses. Yes, Copy Position is a hack to make it look right - just like starting all over with a new explode state eventually gets there. Yet, both approaches create more work - in the model, and in the drawing - with note and balloon reassignments, fiddling with all the Cosmetic Offset Lines, etc..

This assembly was beautiful in a previous version. It pulls up looking great in Creo 9, but one little customer requested change, and the whole thing blows up. (That's another SPR that PTC is dragging their feet on.)

As for fixing several assemblies like above (since the software fails to operate as PTC claims), I am looking for the tools that (in past versions) were very straightforward and easy. PTC has removed and/or hidden a lot of great functionality, so if you know where they put it, please share. The User Interface totally fails the intuitive test - so much so that Tech support can't figure it out either.

[ArnoldCollett]

I used the "Edit Position" and then the "Toggle Exploded State" button. (Creo 7.0.9.0)

[vnamboodheri]

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[ByDesign]

@vnamboodheri  - what if there is not an acceptable solution given?

I fear PTC has botched up the software sufficient that neither Tech Support or the Community can find a fix.  Unfortunately the rest of PTC is too ashamed of the product, so they have hidden themselves from any way to connect.  I would really like to know what happened to this important functionality.  Is it hidden so well that no one can find it?  Or, did they delete it?

[ByDesign]

Yes, @ArnoldCollett  this is what we thought was the solution in the referenced previous post.  But, it does not always work as noted with the image in the top post.  I wish it were as simple as that.  Thank you for the suggestion anyway.

[RandyJones]

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@ByDesign wrote:

Please tell me where the "Explode > Reset Position" functionality went.  Thank you.

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In Pro/ENGINEER® 2001  it was still called Reset...

See page 16 of the Pro/PROCESS
for Assemblies Topic Collection pdf: aspro.pdf

[kdirth]

Here is an Idea that I started over a year ago:  Add a button to remove the explode state from a se... - PTC Community

Until it is implemented, copy position is your best bet to quickly move it to the same position as another part/subassembly

[kdirth]

There is a reset in the drawing view manager in the Customize Explode State dialog box.  It only affects the explode state within the drawing.