Regenerate question

[ptc-4024124]

When I regenerate my assembly, I get a warning at the bottom of the screen stating;

"Cannot update placement of component(M198)"

Does anyone know how to find out what component is "M198". I don't have a part named M198, so I assume it's some kind of designator.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,

August

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[mmonteiro]

Could you attach the assembly and the parts?

[ptc-4024124]

The assembly is huge. I can't attach it or the part, because I'm not sure what part is M198.

I thought it might symbolize a part in my assembly, but no parts have that name.

[mmonteiro]

Inside the folder assembly, have you change manually the name of the part?

[ptc-4024124]

No, I've searched for M198 and there is no part named that in my assembly.

[mmonteiro]

Has M198 in a different folder?

Are you using folders to simplify your assembly?

[nvsuryan]

I do not know if this is the right place to pose my question. I do not know how to post my question in the forum.

I tried to numerically solve a nonlinear boundarly layer equation in Mathcad 11 and Mathcad 15. I get slightly different results with Mahcad 11 apparently giving more plausible results. Any idea why?

[dschenken]

Pick the MathCAD section, then "Ask a question"

http://communities.ptc.com/community/mathcad

leads to:

http://communities.ptc.com/community/post!input.jspa?containerType=14&container=2003

[JamesBurcham]

Have you tried using the "search tool". Set the "look for" feild to "component" and enter your value of "M198"

[mmonteiro]

Send an image of the assembly components (the tree on your left side).

[ptc-4024124]

James,

I tried that and it can't find the component.

Any other suggestions? I'm getting a yellow circle at the bottom in regeneration manager.

[JamesBurcham]

Can you post a screen shot of the message log, with the error?

[ptc-4024124]

I had to do a quick print screen because it only flashes for a couple of seconds when I regenerate. Look at the bottom of the screen.

[vzak · Accepted solution]

Hi, try another 2 options in the search tool as in the picture above :

1. Go to "History" tab, look by ID = 198

2. If not found, in same History tab look by Feat Number = 198

If still not there (and given you have Yellow regen sign) - try to look by Status = Frozen.

Best,

- Vlad

[ptc-4024124]

Vlad,

That did it. I did the search for the id 198 and it identified a screw. The screw was not fully constrained. Once I constrained it, I found a couple of more like that. This was a conversion from Wildfire, so maybe that's why they weren't fully constrained anymore.

Anyway, I really appreciate the help!

August

[vzak]

Very welcome, August. "M" in prefix refers to a "member" - while number is an ID.

Btw, regarding your note "it only flashes for a couple of seconds when I regenerate." - you can always get to the full regeneration log by placing a mouse over the message area and RMB > Regeneration Log - it will open the window with full list of messages. Or like mentioned by Stefen read the trail file - it contains pretty much similar info (just more complicated to get to it among all other rows).

If you have assemblies that showed as fuly constrained in Wildfire and now report as having problems - please submit them to TS, this should not happen.

- Vlad

[StephenW]

Usually what I do in cases like this is open the trail file and search for "cannot update placement" Usually it gives you more information about what component is failing.

For example, the assembly I am working on right now shows this in the trail file:

!%CWComponent id 495 of model 20015508_DOORS_OPEN is family table driven and will use pre-Wildfire3 replace functionality

!%CEFailed to replace member 168111 (M495), 20015508_DOORS_OPEN.

!%CEFailed to replace member 168111 (M495), 20015508_DOORS_OPEN.

!%CWWARNING: Cannot update placement of component (M495).

!%CWComponent id 497 of model 20015508_DOORS_OPEN is family table driven and will use pre-Wildfire3 replace functionality

!%CEFailed to replace member 168111 (M497), 20015508_DOORS_OPEN.

!%CEFailed to replace member 168111 (M497), 20015508_DOORS_OPEN.

!%CWWARNING: Cannot update placement of component (M497).

It tells me what model is failing. In this case, another engineering groups part (not mine, my stuff is perfect...LOL), apparently did a family table to open a door and something about it is failing.

[ptc-4024124]

Stephen,

I tried that and I found them, but all it says is "cannot update placement of component (M19X)". It doesn't state where in the model or subassemblies that component is found.

[StephenW]

Funny, mine looked exactly like that but just past that part, it gave me the additional information.

[bduncan]

Using "Solid Model" to find "M198"