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"NAME ALREADY EXISTS" error ... again...

PAULKORENKIEWIC
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"NAME ALREADY EXISTS" error ... again...

Guru's,

I've tried searching thru the archives and found reference to, but no solution for the issue where you reuse a model and try to name a datum "A", let say, and Pro/E WIldfire 3, comes back to report "NAME ALREADY EXIST". You then go on a mad search for it, only to not find it anywhere. We even erased all but the first feature, and redefined it so it would not have any axis. IN this case, our "A" was an axis in the old model. We have tried using the search function to no avail. In 2001, you could simply specify the name directly when clearing datums, HOW do you do that in Wildfire? Thanks in advance!


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Hi,

Even I faced the same problem few months back, I sent the part to PTC they did some change where later it allowed me to change the name.

They are not ready to disclose what they did!!!!!, they infomred me later that it is developer tool by which they did that.

Regards,

Guru

bfrandsen
5-Regular Member
(To:PAULKORENKIEWIC)

Try to make a full regeneration using the Model Player. That has solved
this problem for me, when I couldn't locate anything on the reported name.

Bjarne Frandsen



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02-07-2007 20:24
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[proecad] - "NAME ALREADY EXISTS" error ... again...






Guru's,
I've tried searching thru the archives and found reference to, but no
solution for the issue where you reuse a model and try to name a datum
"A", let say, and Pro/E WIldfire 3, comes back to report "NAME ALREADY
EXIST".  You then go on a mad search for it, only to not find it anywhere.
We even erased all but the first feature, and redefined it so it would
not have any axis.  IN this case, our "A" was an axis in the old model. We
have tried using the search function to no avail.  In 2001, you could
simply specify the name directly when clearing datums, HOW do you do that
in Wildfire?   Thanks in advance!
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Heres oneoften overlooked cause.

Maybe the Datum A was always there but just supressed and not visible because ofa tree filter.

In your model tree have you got option set to show suppressed features?

UPDATE:

Even if I delete all the features except the first, it still won't let me create the datum name "A". It won't let me delete the first feature because it says I can't delete features with links to GTOL... Very frustrating...

As to the other suggestions... forcing a regeneration thru the model player does nothing... nothing is hidden in the model tree(besides IF it was, wouldn't it still show in the search tool?)....

Greetings...

We had a similar problem - it was necessary to send the file to PTC and
have them use some proprietary "tool" to correct the issue and then send it
back. Like one of the other posts mentioned, they would not say what,
exactly, they did to correct the problem and would not supply the "tool"
that was used



Take Care...



_____

One of our engineers, Paul Culbreth, wrestled with this problem and
produced the following notes:

What I think is more upsetting is that PTC knows about this issue,
accepts that it is a bug, and refuses to do anything about it. The
feedback I got was that this problem is so embedded in the source coding
it would require a total rewrite of the software to fix. Even more
upsetting is they have a program to identify and sometimes fix this
issue but will not make it available to their customers.



We have told our engineers, designers, and drafters that they cannot
"extrude" a hole or a shaft because of this problem. The other no-no is
to assign a GD&T datum to a system generated axis. The good rule of
thumb is to just create a new axis. It's a little more work up front
but saves hours of work trying to fix the model when this bug rears its
head.



Chris Bennett

Associate CAD Admin.

Stryker Instruments

Thanks to both Robert Green and Paul Culbreth... the steps that Paul
laid out worked right off. This has me wondering just how many tries
did it take Paul before he stumbled on this solution!

Paul Korenkiewicz
FEV Engine Technology
4554 Glenmeade
Auburn Hills, MI, 48326

Resurrecting this ancient post for Creo because it comes up on google for this problem. To find and remove Name that you can't see: File > Prepare > Model Properties > Names (change) > select and Remove.

Thanks Joseph,

This helped me.

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