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Bleed Tab Text

nwellhol
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Bleed Tab Text

Hi,

I don't think this will be any problem. Try this to get the text
vertical
Snipted from pnagai@visa.com

!,%\hbox{\special{pub: rotate 90}%,\Column 1\,%}%,!


/nwe@consignit.se
Niklas.W
16 REPLIES 16

Niklas,

Not to be negative, all suggestions are really appreciated as it shows an
interest in helping others, but is your suggestion FOSI? Adding bleed tab
text from other means may be fairly easy, but I am not so sure of FOSI.
Now this may be what has to be done and now they won't have to look too
far for an answer.

Lynn

That looks like some of the TeX code you can embed in FOSI. I haven't
used it much, but I remember seeing some past Adepters threads about
rotating text in table headers and also one about bleed tabs about a
year ago or so. I think Suzanne Napoleon might have contributed
something useful about that. If you can successfully navigate to the
Adepters' archive on the PTC website, you might be able to search and
find something about bleed tabs and/or rotated text.

The easiest way to do bleed tabs is to use regions. Regions (see help
5701) support background color, justification of content, absolute size,
absolute positioning on the page, and rotation. This is exactly what is
needed for bleed tabs. The region content, just like in the header or
footer, may be anything, including a usetext that pulls in content from
the galley.

I too remember Suzanne posting an example on adepters.

Andrew

Regions is good for FO, but I thought the original direction of the
thread was FOSI. Maybe I'm wrong. I forget a lot.

Ed,

You aren't that senile. YET. J But the 5701 is a FOSI region help topic.
We both learned something here.

Lynn

We use regions in FOSIs for bleed tabs quite successfully (code
essentials available upon request). They serve to mark the first five
pages of each section with a right-side thumb tab, lower on the page a
fixed amount for each successive section.

There was indeed a thread last November on the topic ("Bleeder tabs"),
with code from Suzanne, and an endorsement of regions by John D.:
http://forums.arbortext.com/webx?230@88.qIbRaSlJar6.11@.3c3fff5f

--Jack
LSI, Inc. [Link!]
Jacksonville, FL

We have also used these bleedings but never with vertical text in the
bleeding, have you?

/Niklas.W

I have seen the thread in the archive on bleeder tabs,
which help me a lot. But, is it possible to get *text*
display in these tabs? Has anyone done it before in
FOSI? If the style sheet was done using XSL-FO this
wouldn't be a problem for me; actually it would be
quite easy to implement.

Thanks,
Egrub

--- "Kulas, Jack" <jkulas@lsijax.com> wrote:

> We use regions in FOSIs for bleed tabs quite
> successfully (code
> essentials available upon request). They serve to
> mark the first five
> pages of each section with a right-side thumb tab,
> lower on the page a
> fixed amount for each successive section.
>
> There was indeed a thread last November on the topic
> ("Bleeder tabs"),
> with code from Suzanne, and an endorsement of
> regions by John D.:
>
http://forums.arbortext.com/webx?230@88.qIbRaSlJar6.11@.3c3fff5f
>
> --Jack
> LSI, Inc. [Link!]
> Jacksonville, FL
>


Egrub,


Yes, text will display in the tabs (usetext). You can use literal text or
variables. I don't recall trying to rotate the text, but I don't see why it
wouldn't work. The TeX pass-thrufor rotating text should be in the
Adepters archives. It's also on my web site at href="http://fosiexpert.com/fyi.html">http://fosiexpert.com/fyi.html.


BTW: IMHO, regions in FOSI are much betterthan in XSL-FO because you
can have as many FOSI regions as you want, anywhere you want.


Good luck!

Suzanne Napoleon



In a message dated 5/26/2006 11:28:43 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
- writes:

style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>I have
seen the thread in the archive on bleeder tabs,
which help me a lot. But,
is it possible to get *text*
display in these tabs? Has anyone done it
before in
FOSI? If the style sheet was done using XSL-FO this
wouldn't
be a problem for me; actually it would be
quite easy to
implement.

Thanks,
Egrub

--- "Kulas, Jack"
<jkulas@lsijax.com> wrote:

> We use regions in FOSIs for bleed
tabs quite
> successfully (code
> essentials available upon
request). They serve to
> mark the first five
> pages of each
section with a right-side thumb tab,
> lower on the page a
> fixed
amount for each successive section.
>
> There was indeed a thread
last November on the topic
> ("Bleeder tabs"),
> with code from
Suzanne, and an endorsement of
> regions by John
D.:
>
http://forums.arbortext.com/webx?230@88.qIbRaSlJar6.11@.3c3fff5f
>

> --Jack
> LSI, Inc. [Link!]
> Jacksonville, FL
>

As mentioned below, region has a rotation attribute (help
5701) so you do not need to use a TeX pass-thru.


Andrew





From: StudentWP@aol.com

Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:10
PM
To: -; arbortext-adepters
Subject: Re:
Bleed Tab Text




Egrub,


Yes, text will display in the tabs (usetext). You can use literal text or
variables. I don't recall trying to rotate the text, but I don't see why it
wouldn't work. The TeX pass-thrufor rotating text should be in the
Adepters archives. It's also on my web site at href="http://fosiexpert.com/fyi.html">http://fosiexpert.com/fyi.html.


BTW: IMHO, regions in FOSI are much betterthan in XSL-FO because you
can have as many FOSI regions as you want, anywhere you want.


Good luck!

Suzanne Napoleon



In a message dated 5/26/2006 11:28:43 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
- writes:

style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>I have
seen the thread in the archive on bleeder tabs,
which help me a lot. But,
is it possible to get *text*
display in these tabs? Has anyone done it
before in
FOSI? If the style sheet was done using XSL-FO this
wouldn't
be a problem for me; actually it would be
quite easy to
implement.

Thanks,
Egrub

--- "Kulas, Jack"
<jkulas@lsijax.com> wrote:

> We use regions in FOSIs for bleed
tabs quite
> successfully (code
> essentials available upon
request). They serve to
> mark the first five
> pages of each
section with a right-side thumb tab,
> lower on the page a
> fixed
amount for each successive section.
>
> There was indeed a thread
last November on the topic
> ("Bleeder tabs"),
> with code from
Suzanne, and an endorsement of
> regions by John D.:
>
href="http://forums.arbortext.com/webx?230@88.qIbRaSlJar6.11@.3c3fff5f">http://forums.arbortext.com/...
>

> --Jack
> LSI, Inc. [Link!]
> Jacksonville, FL
>

Hi All:

I am hoping that someone will be able to help me with
this issue that I am having with displaying text in
bleed tabs. Okay, here is my dilemma: the text
(acronym) is displaying above the bleed tabs and I
have no idea why it is not displaying within. I even
try the rotating method and the issue wasn't resolved.
With the text rotate method; the text displays close
to the bleed tabs depending on the degree used.

Below are snippets of code; maybe someone will see
what I am doing incorrectly. Thanks in advance for
your help!


S. Egrub

<===CODE SNIPPET===>



This is the text rotating code that I used:

<usetext source="%\hbox{\special{pub:" rotate=" 270}%,<br="/>20pt,bleed-acronym.txt,%}%"
placemnt="after">




--- StudentWP@aol.com wrote:

Well I have looked in all these old posts, but I am still not quite finding the answer of how I thought I could do this.

This is my scenario:

<pageset ....<=" p=">

<region ..<br="/><usetext source="bleed_1" ...<br="/>{ repeat this for 10 bleed tabs }

If bleed_1 is set to text the bleed tab prints, when not it is blank. Works great. But now what I need to do is in the <e-i-c> use a counter to fill in the correct bleed_x and when you get to 10 set the counter back to 1.

This morning while thinking about it before I got up I had the idea I could probably use ACL since it has more programming logic. I have spent the day trying to look up how I might do this, but I don't know ACL very well (only modified exisiting code).

Thanks for any help or ideas, Ellen

"Behold the turtle. He makes progress only when he sticks his neck out." - James B. Conant

Ellen,

Save the counter to a string variable and output the string with a modifier ([TO], [FI], or [BO]) from the region.

Good luck!
Suzanne


I'm reading between the e-i-c's here a bit, but I think you have ten tab
positions you support and then you want to start reusing them by resetting
the counter. An alternate strategy is to specval your way to the silly but
logical extreme. We have an old app that had five tab positions. We did
this:
<att logic="or">
<specval attname="f-bleedct" attloc="#FOSI" attval="\1\">
<specval attname="f-bleedct" attloc="#FOSI" attval="\6\">
<specval attname="f-bleedct" attloc="#FOSI" attval="\11\">
<specval attname="f-bleedct" attloc="#FOSI" attval="\16\">

For each of the five until we reached a great enough number that we knew
we'd never hit it in the chapter count.

No ACL (or performance) hits.


On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Ellen Headrick <ellen.headrick@jeppesen.com<br/>> wrote:

> Well I have looked in all these old posts, but I am still not quite finding
> the answer of how I thought I could do this.
>
> This is my scenario:
>
> <pageset ....<br="/>>
> <region ..<br="/>> <usetext source="bleed_1" ...<br="/>> { repeat this for 10 bleed tabs }
>
> If bleed_1 is set to text the bleed tab prints, when not it is blank.
> Works great. But now what I need to do is in the <e-i-c> use a counter to
> fill in the correct bleed_x and when you get to 10 set the counter back to
> 1.
>
> This morning while thinking about it before I got up I had the idea I could
> probably use ACL since it has more programming logic. I have spent the day
> trying to look up how I might do this, but I don't know ACL very well (only
> modified exisiting code).
>
> Thanks for any help or ideas, Ellen
>
> "Behold the turtle. He makes progress only when he sticks his neck out." -
> James B. Conant
>

Suzanne,
This sounds like what I want to do..... but head is just not getting the format of how this works 🙂 Can you give me a little example?

Paul,
I like your idea too, just seems like it would be more code than Suzanne's solution.

Ellen

From: Suzanne Napoleon [

Ellen,

Revisiting this, I am not sure what you want to do. I was thinking you wanted to output the numbering in the bleed tabs.

Suzanne


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