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Drag and Drop in Epic:(adepters-digest V2 #1150)

yosef_symonds
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Drag and Drop in Epic:(adepters-digest V2 #1150)

Hi Jennifer and Paul,

We often need to get sizeable Word tables into Adept/Epic and this is how we
do it.
The procedure below is a little specific to our environment but you will get
the gist.
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Re: Drag and Drop in Epic:(adepters-digest V2 #1150)

Hi,
Apologies to all for having misunderstood the problem.
I completely missed the "drag" aspect - so please disregard what I wrote.

Yosef Symonds

Re: Drag and Drop in Epic:(adepters-digest V2 #1150)

Yosef,

Don't know if you're still around, but here I am 14 years after your post and being very thankful you posted it.  I'm brand new to Arbortext and was faced with "importing" a 100-row table from Word into Arbortext, and your method worked like a charm.  Couldn't find anything else on the topic, and none of the experienced users in my office knew this could be done!

If I knew how to send this message back in time to thank you, I would definitely do so!  ;o)

-- Mic

Re: Drag and Drop in Epic:(adepters-digest V2 #1150)

At 04:01 PM 8/16/01 +0300, Symonds, Yosef wrote:
>Hi,
>Apologies to all for having misunderstood the problem.
>I completely missed the "drag" aspect - so please disregard what I wrote.

No need to apologize, Yosef. Your approach to importing tables from
Word is quite clever, and worth posting!

Paul

>Yosef Symonds
>email: yosef_symonds@comverse.com
>Comverse Ltd.
>Israel
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Symonds, Yosef
>Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 10:52 AM
>To: 'adepters@arbortext.com'
>Subject: Drag and Drop in Epic:(adepters-digest V2 #1150)
>
>
>Hi Jennifer and Paul,
>
>We often need to get sizeable Word tables into Adept/Epic and this is how we
>do it.
>The procedure below is a little specific to our environment but you will get
>the gist.
>..........................................................................
>To transfer a Word table to Adept:
>
>A. Preparation:
>
>1.Retrieve the word file with the table
>2. Activate Adept and retrieve the chapter to place the table
>3. Activate Excel and place the cursor in the first cell.
>
>B. Procedure:
>
>1. In the Word file, select the table (Alt+Num5).
>2. Cut or copy the table.
>3. Switch to Excel and paste the table (remember to place the cursor in the
>first cell (A1). The table appears and it is highlighted.
>4. Cut or copy the table.
>5. Switch to the Adept file.
>6. Place the cursor at the point to enter the table.
>7. On the main menu, Click Edit>Paste Excel. The Excel Import Option dialog
>box appears. Note: If the Paste Excel button is gray, then the cursor is
>at an illegal location.
>8. In the Table Options section:
> a. Click the down arrow from the Table Elements drop down list box
>and select the desired table.
> b. Select the number of header rows.
> c. Click OK. The table is imported.
>9. Follow your usual methods for Table naming, cross-referencing and column
>sizes (select column to be modified. From the Adept main menu, select
>Table>Modify Cells>Dimensions).
>10. Select Table>Modify Cells> Justification. In the Vertical Justification
>area, select TOP and click OK.
>
>Hope this helps you,
>
>Yosef Symonds
>email: yosef_symonds@comverse.com
>Tel: 972-3-6454922 Fax: 972-3-6454100
>Information Development Group
>Comverse Ltd.
>29 Habarzel St., Ramat Hachayal
>Tel Aviv 69710 Israel
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-adepters-digest@arbortext.com
>
>Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 9:00 AM
>To: adepters-digest@arbortext.com
>Subject: adepters-digest V2 #1150
>
>
>
>adepters-digest Thursday, 16 August 19101 Volume 02 : Number
>1150
>
>In this issue:
>
>AW: drag and drop into epic
>Re: breaks in table/formula
>layout configuration error message
>Japanese and Adept 8.1/Global running on US/UK Windows NT
>Re: layout configuration error message
>Re: layout configuration error message
>Re: AW: drag and drop into epic
>
>See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the adepters
>or adepters-digest mailing lists.
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Roland_K=E4stle?= <kaestle@reutlingen.tanner.de>
>Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 08:09:03 +0200
>Subject: AW: drag and drop into epic
>
>Hi Jennifer,
>drag and drop into Epic is quite succesfull with plain text (including =
>=E4=F6=FC=DF
>etc) from Word or another Windows Program.
>Other objects like graphics or tables cant be succesfull.
>
>best regards
>
>Roland
>
> > -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: Jennifer Robins [SMTP:jrobins@isogen.com]
> > Gesendet am: Dienstag, 14. August 2001 21:29
> > An: adepters@arbortext.com
> > Betreff: drag and drop into epic
> >=20
> > Although Epic's online help states that you cannot drag and drop =
>objects
> > between Epic and other software, I was wondering if anyone had tried =
>this
> > and been successful.
> >=20
> > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
> > Jennifer Robins
> > ISOGEN International
> > 1016 La Posada Dr. Suite 240
> > Austin, TX 78752
> > (512)302-3753
> >=20
> >=20
>
>------------------------------
>
>From: lhales@csc.com
>Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 06:45:38 -0400
>Subject: Re: breaks in table/formula
>
>Alan,
>
>As it just so happens, there is. Depending on how you're going about it,
>there are a couple of ways to put in the same PI.
>
>In the table view mode, go to the modify cells under the table menu or by
>right clicking inside the table. Select the "composed output" tab and
>click on the "forced" radial button. This puts a PI in the row where the
>cursor is located that reads PubTbl row breakpenalty="-10000" (by the way,
>the documentation says the values are 0, 1, 2, and 3). There are four
>radial buttons in the box that allow you to not have a break, allow a
>break, force a break and the default setting.
>
>You can also add the PI through an ACL script, you just need to capture the
>oid of the current table row so when you meet your break criteria, you can
>go back to that row and insert the PI.
>
>Take a look in the on line help topic "Row Table Attributes" for the rest
>of the story. I think this is what you're looking for, at least in
>tables.
>
>Lynn E. Hales
>Information Technology Consultant
>lhales@csc.com
>(757) 262-3495
>
>
>
>
>
>"Allen Seifert" <aseifert@xsystemsinc.com>@arbortext.com on 08/14/2001
>03:17:34 PM
>
>Please respond to adepters@arbortext.com
>
>Sent by: owner-adepters@arbortext.com
>
>
>To: <adepters@arbortext.com>
>cc:
>
>Subject: breaks in table/formula
>
>Adepters,
>
>Does anyone know if it is possible to force a break for a
>new column or new page in the middle of a table/formula?
>
>Thanks,
>Allen
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>From: "Allen Seifert" <aseifert@xsystemsinc.com>
>Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 11:09:05 -0400
>Subject: layout configuration error message
>
>Hello adepters,
>
>I am receiving the following error message when attempting
>to print a composed instance of one of my many files:
>
> On or near page 1 - Could not open the layout configuration specified.
> The uniform layout configuration will be used.
>
>I have not set layout configuration in any of the specs of
>any of the page layouts in my FOSI so it should default to
>"uniform" according to the help. This is on Epic 4.1 under
>Win2K
>
>Any insights?
>
>Thanks,
>Allen
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>From: "Phil Gooch" <phil.gooch@csw.co.uk>
>Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 16:14:20 +0100
>Subject: Japanese and Adept 8.1/Global running on US/UK Windows NT
>
>Hi there
>
>Does anyone know if it is possible to preview/PDF Japanese XML docs in Adept
>Publisher 8.1/Global when running on standard US/UK English Windows NT? Or
>does it only work when running under the Japanese version of Windows NT?
>
>I can see the Japanese characters in the Edit window and this is fine, but
>when I preview I get blank pages.
>I've got the IE5 language pack, which installs an new version of the MS
>Gothic font, with all the Japanese characters, and I have tried converting
>this font using the makeafm, afmtopl and pltotf conversion programs. This
>seems to convert OK, but I'm not sure what to put in the custom tfmfont.cf,
>tfontsub.cf, wfontsub.cf and pubview.fnt files I'm pointing to.
>
>Any help much appreciated!
>
>Phil
>
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>------------------------------
>
>From: Paul Klock <pak@arbortext.com>
>Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 11:40:39 -0400
>Subject: Re: layout configuration error message
>
>The formatting process needs to be able to resolve these public IDs:
>
>- --================================================================--
>- -- Layout Configuration Files for Output Routine. --
>- --================================================================--
>PUBLIC "-//ArborText//NONSGML ATI Layout config.
>uniform//EN" "../formats/uniform.lcf"
>PUBLIC "-//ArborText//NONSGML ATI Layout config.
>dense//EN" "../formats/dense.lcf"
>PUBLIC "-//ArborText//NONSGML ATI Layout config. aesthetic//EN"
>"../formats/aesthetic.lcf"
>PUBLIC "-//ArborText//NONSGML ATI Layout config.
>rigid//EN" "../formats/rigid.lcf"
>
>If your catalogpath does not also include the epic-path/doctypes path (or if
>APTCATPATH does not include %D) you will see the error.
>
>At 11:09 AM 8/15/01 -0400, Allen Seifert wrote:
> >Hello adepters,
> >
> >I am receiving the following error message when attempting
> >to print a composed instance of one of my many files:
> >
> > On or near page 1 - Could not open the layout configuration specified.
> > The uniform layout configuration will be used.
> >
> >I have not set layout configuration in any of the specs of
> >any of the page layouts in my FOSI so it should default to
> >"uniform" according to the help. This is on Epic 4.1 under
> >Win2K
> >
> >Any insights?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Allen
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>From: lhales@csc.com
>Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 11:39:25 -0400
>Subject: Re: layout configuration error message
>
>Allen,
>
>That is a good question and someone else raised it here a while back. I
>don't recall an answer being provided. I really hadn't looked at it, but I
>noticed the same error on one of my documents. With my FOSI, I get
>numerous 6 and 12 point overfault messages, so I usually don't even look at
>that window unless I am looking for something specific. One would think
>that if the 'uniform' layout was being used the final output would be wrong
>and my output was as specifed in the FOSI. Like Allen, I am using Windoze
>2000 with Epic 4.1.
>
>Arbortext?
>
>Lynn E. Hales
>Information Technology Consultant
>lhales@csc.com
>(757) 262-3495
>
>
>
>
>
>"Allen Seifert" <aseifert@xsystemsinc.com>@arbortext.com on 08/15/2001
>11:09:05 AM
>
>Please respond to adepters@arbortext.com
>
>Sent by: owner-adepters@arbortext.com
>
>
>To: <adepters@arbortext.com>
>cc:
>
>Subject: layout configuration error message
>
>Hello adepters,
>
>I am receiving the following error message when attempting
>to print a composed instance of one of my many files:
>
> On or near page 1 - Could not open the layout configuration specified.
> The uniform layout configuration will be used.
>
>I have not set layout configuration in any of the specs of
>any of the page layouts in my FOSI so it should default to
>"uniform" according to the help. This is on Epic 4.1 under
>Win2K
>
>Any insights?
>
>Thanks,
>Allen
>
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>From: Paul Klock <pak@arbortext.com>
>Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 11:50:06 -0400
>Subject: Re: AW: drag and drop into epic
>
>At 08:09 AM 8/15/01 +0200, Roland K=E4stle wrote:
> >Hi Jennifer,
> >drag and drop into Epic is quite succesfull with plain text (including =E4=
>=F6=FC=DF
> >etc) from Word or another Windows Program.
>
>You can copy and paste text into Epic, and you can also copy and
>paste properly marked-up XML/SGML data into Epic (where it is in
>context).
>
>However, you cannot (yet) highlight material in a non-Epic window,
>drag it into an Epic window, and drop it.
>
>Paul
>
> >Other objects like graphics or tables cant be succesfull.
> >
> >best regards
> >
> >Roland
> >
> > > -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
> > > Von: Jennifer Robins [SMTP:jrobins@isogen.com]
> > > Gesendet am: Dienstag, 14. August 2001 21:29
> > > An: adepters@arbortext.com
> > > Betreff: drag and drop into epic
> > >
> > > Although Epic's online help states that you cannot drag and drop objects
> > > between Epic and other software, I was wondering if anyone had tried=
> this
> > > and been successful.
> > >
> > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
> > > Jennifer Robins
> > > ISOGEN International
> > > 1016 La Posada Dr. Suite 240
> > > Austin, TX 78752
> > > (512)302-3753
> > >
> > >
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
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Re: Drag and Drop in Epic:(adepters-digest V2 #1150)

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Yes, I was intrigued until I discovered it can't be used for the Arbortext
table model (which is the one we use, of course). Any plans to extend support?

Dave Hintz

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