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December 1, 2011
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Page Set Edit

  • December 1, 2011
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I created a page set in Styler and then added source edits. I originally set "First Page Header" to None, but now I want to change that to "Same". Is there a quicker way to change that other than recreating the page set from scratch? (And if so, what if I wanted to make the same change for the footer?)


I assume I need a different page set per section if the headers or footers are going to be different?

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    naglists1-Visitor
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    December 1, 2011
    Hi Caroline,
    In reverse order, yes, you will need a page set per section if the headers
    / footers are going to be different. Note that "different" does not include
    changing the title to match the new title of the section ... different
    would imply that instead of the title of the section, you'd want to replace
    it (in the header and/or footer) with the first and last occurrence of an
    h1 title as in a dictionary.

    It's hard to answer your first question without knowing how much change you
    have made in source edits and how much effort it was to create the page set
    before you began making source edits. Further, I haven't personally done
    source edits on page sets. Plenty on elements, though. Also, you don't say
    what version of Styler you're working with ... conceivably that would make
    a difference.

    Going forward, create as much of your page set as you can within the Styler
    interface and before starting on the source edits, make a copy the page
    set. If you ever have to "start over" again at the source edit stage, you
    can simply make a copy of the copy and dive in. Also, you might consider
    digging into any file backups of your stylesheet. Maybe you can grab a copy
    of the page set from one of those.


    On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 9:20 AM, Caroline Leccese <caroline@thecodesource.net<br/>> wrote:

    > I created a page set in Styler and then added source edits. I originally
    > set "First Page Header" to None, but now I want to change that to "Same".
    > Is there a quicker way to change that other than recreating the page set
    > from scratch? (And if so, what if I wanted to make the same change for the
    > footer?)
    >
    > I assume I need a different page set per section if the headers or
    > footers are going to be different?
    >
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    bibach1-Visitor
    1-Visitor
    December 1, 2011
    To put what Paul said another way, whether you need another page set
    for a different section depends on how the pages are "different". If
    you can give us some more detail, we can make a more specific
    suggestion.

    As for changing the first-page header and footer to "same" in your
    source-edited page set, the FOSI code generated by Styler for the page
    set would have two <rectopg> elements. The first one would be for the
    first page in the sequence, when it is recto (right-hand or odd), the
    second would be for the rest of the recto pages. Styler only
    generates the first one if you specify something that needs to be
    different about the first page. To my knowledge, at least in older
    versions of Styler and the most common types of layout even in newer
    versions, this only happens when you opt to have different headers or
    footers. So, the likely fix to your source-edits is to just remove
    the first <rectopg>.

    That shot-in-the-dark having been fired, I'll suggest a method for a
    more careful approach. Duplicate your page set, then delete the
    source edits from the new copy. Make a copy of this new copy and do
    your changes (setting first page header to "same", etc.). Export the
    FOSI (File->Export->FOSI) and compare the FOSI code generated for the
    two copies, ideally with a text editor or other tool that can do an
    automated comparison and show you the results. The difference between
    the two is the set of changes you'd need to make to your source-edited
    page set. Hopefully, this would be just removing the first <rectopg>,
    but this method should help highlight any quirks that might arise.

    Hope this helps...

    -Brandon 🙂


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    cleccese1-VisitorAuthor
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    December 1, 2011

    Thanks, Brandon, that's exactly what I was looking for.


    I'm using Styler 5.3 and the source edits were only variables in the headers which I formatted for font-weight and alignment. Not that big of a deal. I didn't think I could use a text variable in the Styler headers.

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    bibach1-Visitor
    1-Visitor
    December 1, 2011
    Particularly in pre-5.4 Styler, where the level of source-edit
    granularity is not as good, source edits are a necessary evil, by
    which I mean that they are an evil which should be used only when
    absolutely necessary.  If you can describe what you need to do that
    drove you to use a source edit, perhaps we can suggest an alternative.

    Otherwise, consider putting a UFE into your header and applying the
    source edit to that, or even to a property set that gets applied to
    the appropriate element.  This will localize the source edit to the
    smallest possible piece of code.  It's worth the extra layer or two to
    avoid disabling part of the Styler UI that is responsible for several
    hundred lines of FOSI code, just to add or change a handful of lines.

    -Brandon 🙂


    On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Caroline Leccese
    <caroline@thecodesource.net> wrote:
    > Thanks, Brandon, that's exactly what I was looking for.
    >
    > I'm using Styler 5.3 and the source edits were only variables in the headers
    > which I formatted for font-weight and alignment. Not that big of a deal. I
    > didn't think I could use a text variable in the Styler headers.
    >
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    cleccese1-VisitorAuthor
    1-Visitor
    December 2, 2011

    The text variables in the header are holding the content of a couple of elements, one of which could be hardcoded anyway. I tried using the Styler Interface for that but my headers came up blank. I couldn't get the XPATH to work either, trying both of the suggestions I received in an earlier thread (the wpno element)


    I am using two text variables in one of the footers: one is holding the figure count, and the other is holding the sheet number for multi-sheet foldouts. I am using the XPATH that you gave me for my figure counts in the document itself. So my foldout and title elements have a few source edits also. I think the only time I use a source edit is to add or reset a variable, or when I need to make a title inline.

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