Here's a problem that has been perplexing us for some time. We use the EFX frame generator to build all of our machine bases, great tool.... love it! However.... our steel is part numbered based on the channel or tube size code. This means that, for example, (2) pieces of C10 x 30 channel - regardless of length, would have the same part number. We designate the length as a field in a repeat region BOM, which also has a column for part number. This results in duplicate line items of the same part number but different length.... which is what we want. The problem comes in when we add BOM Balloons. Using this BOM table, PRO-E will only allow one balloon per line item, regardless of the quantity. So if I have (3) pcs of steel Part #123 at 24", and (6) pcs of part #123 at 32".... I get one balloon for each. NOT for each individual pc. of steel... but each line item. Now, if I remove the length column and leave the part numbers all together, I get one balloon for each piece of steel... but have to sacrifice my length data! My welders would be very unhappy if I did this.
Anyone have any ideas why PRO-E pulls this little trick once I add the length column, and how can I get around it? I've attached an example (bitmap) of one of ou BOM's just so you can see what I'm talking about.
And sure enough,... as usual.... 10 minutes after I post a question I stumble bass-ackwards into the solution. After months of trial and error, I found the problem. I was using the "LENGTH" parameter that is created by the EFX frame generator. This is a locked parameter, so that must be why it gives me grief. There is also a parameter that EFX creates called BUW_LENGTH and has the same value as LENTH, but is not locked. using that, all of my balloons show up... one for each individual component. I love it whena plan comes together.
Good morning everyone Question, I have two instances in a drawing I want to show a BOM with balloons but I can not get them to show on the exploded instance. Can this be done and if so how WF2 Thanks Stan Stan Kline Senior Designer R&D L-3 communications BT Fuze Products 1650 Manheim Pike Suite 201 Lancaster, PA 17601-3088
Unfortunately I didn't make myself clear (realized after I read my own email). I have two instances on the same sheet one is a partial exploded view the other completely assembled. . I insert a BOM table and want to place the balloons on both views (the exploded view shows components that are not seen on the completed assembly) can this be done. Placing balloons on both instances .
Here is my method to adding balloons to Simplified Reps using only one table (repeat region) set to the Top Level Assembly.
A.) Top level assembly / create a simplified rep of what you want to have displayed on your drawing Exploded or not. (Save and name it)
B.) Orientate the view around so it looks nice / save the view name.
C.) In drawing mode / Top level assembly active / insert a drawing view using the saved view you created above
D.) Let's clean up the view. Click the pull down: View / Drawing Display / Component Display / Blank / Picked view (now pick the Binoculars, to Search) Click on the View and the Search GUI pops up.
D1.) In the Search Tool GUI chose: Status / Rule= Display / Criteria= Simplified Rep, Sate=(Rep Name Step A above) Comparison= Is equal to, Value= Exclude (we are excluding the Rep from being blanked) Now click on Find Now, Items listed in left column are what will get blanked, click on one of the items and do a Ctrl "A" to select them all, Click the >> to move them into the selected column, and click on close, middle mouse button twice to confirm and exit.
E.) Your new view will only show the simplified Rep, from there you can Balloon the items using the Bom table looking at your top level Assembly.
* When creating your simplified rep, use the Exclude rule and add comps as you need them, keeps your view from populating
* When placing your view on the drawing use a small scale size at first while you clean up the view then change it to what you need, this will help in regen time and to help visually trust me on large assemblies you'll need this tip
* When doing a Ctrl "A" to select all the items to blank, before selecting the >> to move them into the selected column make sure Pro is finished searching; Hint Red Stop sign is done flashing.
* You can Explode the view by selecting the view Props and changing values around the way you see fit.
Attached is an example of a simplified Rep Exploded, ballooned using the Top level Repeat Region.
So far no responses to my question below. I would greatly appreciate any things to check or try. I have tried splitting Balloons and other options in BOM Balloons and searched the user thread archives along with PTC knowledge base with no fixes or work arounds yet. I haven't defaulted to creating individual leader notes with a balloon and adding the appropriate number since any changes will require changing all these dumb leaders. What I did see in some of the archives were in regards to WF versions and some of those options didn't seem to be available.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks again, Mark A. Peterson Design Engineer Ramteq
I still haven't found the resolution to my missing BOM Balloons and would greatly appreciate some assistance. Below are my original postings identifying the issue. Please respond with any suggestions, questions or information. As stated below I am on 2000i.