Even long time SWX users here have a bit of trouble understanding its file management. In fact, we asked our VAR and he couldn’t explain it fully. After a bit he dug up a convoluted explanation from the SW docs. The big problem is it’s very opaque; you have to dig to discover where your files are coming from.
Pro/E’s data management rules take some education, but in the end it’s a handful of simple rules about file retrieval order and pretty easy to understand.
I’d agree with the group, file management is an important part of the design process, and not just CAD files but spec sheets, design specs, excel data and more.
What are the issues with SW? Where do I start? Oh, I guess we’re talking specifically about data management here. :-D
The rules for where SW finds files are pretty fuzzy. In an assembly, it’s not readily apparent where the parts live. SW keeps track of where they came from, so if you open an assy from folder A and then add a part from folder B, next time you open the assy from A it’ll look to folder B for that part, even if it exists in folder A too. The problem comes if you already have the part open from another folder or if SW can’t find it or if you move things around in Windows or by ‘Save As’.
We’ve seen parts open in one window from one folder, open an assembly and it finds a different version of the same part from another folder. Yeah, two versions of the same part open in the same session of SW. If assemblies are copied using ‘Save As’ the new copy still references the original parts unless you tell it not to.
There are steps to minimize the issues, but it requires some deliberate techniques from the user (like using ‘Pack and Go’ instead of ‘Save As’). One can certainly make a mess with Pro/E too, but is usually because of user error rather than the software thinking for you. Outside PDM Link or Intralink, Pro/E doesn’t try to keep track of the files. No hidden magic, just look in session, look in the folder, check the search paths then ask the user. Oh, and I can set Pro/E to tell me the full path in the title bar so it’s obvious where the file is.
Great answer! I suggest that you not deduct points. Instead face them with reality. If they don't suffer upfront, the will pay later. They will feel like they are getting A+'s. Then at the end give them all C's . But give it to them like two days before the end of the class so that they can learn to scramble and abuse their subjugates in a meaningless and futile effort to make up for the good times they enjoyed...... But give them all chocolate as a golden parachute and be hush hush about it so that other professors don't know a thing of what happened there. Wait a minute! you can get a cut if you black mail or just keep 5% of the chocolates in the end.
Actually my manger is really nice. But its Friday so only the poor souls who are working now will read this anyway.
I created an extrude when what I actually wanted was a sketch. I thought there was a way to remove a sketch from the extrude turning it from an internal sketch to an external sketch. I like to lose the extrude and keep the sketch.
Is this possible? WF2 (no need to comment on the WF2 part, we’re working on it).
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