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Importance of data management in the process

Importance of data management in the process


SWX is a good example to draw from. SWX lets you go down bad paths and
keep on going. It's flexibility to do now and pay later has been my
number one peave about it.

Importance of data management in the process

Even long time SWX users here have a bit of trouble understanding its file management. In fact, we asked our VAR and he couldn’t explain it fully. After a bit he dug up a convoluted explanation from the SW docs. The big problem is it’s very opaque; you have to dig to discover where your files are coming from.



Pro/E’s data management rules take some education, but in the end it’s a handful of simple rules about file retrieval order and pretty easy to understand.



I’d agree with the group, file management is an important part of the design process, and not just CAD files but spec sheets, design specs, excel data and more.



Doug Schaefer
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Doug Schaefer | Engineering Manager
Crow Works

Importance of data management in the process

Oh boy – It’s Friday again…



“What are the general issues with SW?”



Nice question...




Importance of data management in the process

What are the issues with SW? Where do I start? Oh, I guess we’re talking specifically about data management here. :-D



The rules for where SW finds files are pretty fuzzy. In an assembly, it’s not readily apparent where the parts live. SW keeps track of where they came from, so if you open an assy from folder A and then add a part from folder B, next time you open the assy from A it’ll look to folder B for that part, even if it exists in folder A too. The problem comes if you already have the part open from another folder or if SW can’t find it or if you move things around in Windows or by ‘Save As’.



We’ve seen parts open in one window from one folder, open an assembly and it finds a different version of the same part from another folder. Yeah, two versions of the same part open in the same session of SW. If assemblies are copied using ‘Save As’ the new copy still references the original parts unless you tell it not to.



There are steps to minimize the issues, but it requires some deliberate techniques from the user (like using ‘Pack and Go’ instead of ‘Save As’). One can certainly make a mess with Pro/E too, but is usually because of user error rather than the software thinking for you. Outside PDM Link or Intralink, Pro/E doesn’t try to keep track of the files. No hidden magic, just look in session, look in the folder, check the search paths then ask the user. Oh, and I can set Pro/E to tell me the full path in the title bar so it’s obvious where the file is.



Doug Schaefer
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Doug Schaefer | Engineering Manager
Crow Works

Importance of data management in the process

Great answer! I suggest that you not deduct points. Instead face them with
reality. If they don't suffer upfront, the will pay later. They will feel
like they are getting A+'s. Then at the end give them all C's Smiley Happy. But give
it to them like two days before the end of the class so that they can learn
to scramble and abuse their subjugates in a meaningless and futile effort
to make up for the good times they enjoyed...... But give them all
chocolate as a golden parachute and be hush hush about it so that other
professors don't know a thing of what happened there. Wait a minute! you
can get a cut if you black mail or just keep 5% of the chocolates in the
end.

Actually my manger is really nice. But its Friday so only the poor souls
who are working now will read this anyway.



Make extrude into a sketch

Hi all,

I created an extrude when what I actually wanted was a sketch. I thought there was a way to remove a sketch from the extrude turning it from an internal sketch to an external sketch. I like to lose the extrude and keep the sketch.

Is this possible? WF2 (no need to comment on the WF2 part, we’re working on it).

Thanks,
Stefan

Make extrude into a sketch

Stefan,



In any version of Pro (WF2 shown here) you can save the sketch (while in the sketch) by simply pressing SAVE. You will be presented with this dialog...







You can then retrieve that section file into a new external sketch not part of an extrude feature.



Hope this helps,



Gavin B. Rumble, PE

Solid Engineering

336-224-2312


Make extrude into a sketch

Ctrl+C in the sketch for the unwanted extrude and then start a new sketch, Ctrl+V (you can also drag and scale if you choose).

Then delete the original extrude, Boom! Done!

Michael Ohlrich, Design Engineer
Benchmade Knife Company
mohlrich@benchmade.com<">mailto:mohlrich@benchmade.com>
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RE: Make extrude into a sketch

Another hijacked thread!



Please "create" a new thread instead of "replying"...just sayin.