Pc spec upgrade for creo

ptc-4732235 · ‎Sep 15, 2012

Hi all,

Just started using creo 1, have spent last ten yrs+ on solidworks. Im upgrading my pc to a higher spec and looking for advice on what to do.

Current spec:

OS- windows 7 ultim. 64bit

Processor - intel core i7 4GHz

Main drive (programs) - 125 GB SSD

Storeage drive - sata 1TB

Graphics - ATI firepro V8800 fireGL

Ram - 6GB

When originally building it 2 yrs ago I put the money into the graphics card instead of RAM.

Now would I need more RAM for large assemblies or bigger SSD? or both?

Thanks for any input;)

Dec.

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MartinHanak · ‎Sep 17, 2012

Declan,

I think your PC configuration is strong enough. I am sure you will need more RAM for large assemblies. But you can add more RAM later to get for example 12 GB RAM.

Martin Hanak

Martin Hanák

ptc-4732235 · ‎Sep 17, 2012

Hi martin thanks, thats what i thought. But i installed creo yesterday, and had serious viewing problems. Whenever i would move the cursor or draw a line it would leave a mess on the screen, after a few hours I found a thread about configs and had to physically turn on the opengl! Now theres no mess but its so slow it not even funny considering how much the graphics card cost, has me quite annoyed, is there anything that would just set up the graphics cards correctly for creo itself?

Declan.

MartinHanak · ‎Sep 17, 2012

Declan,

according to http://www.ptc.com/WCMS/files/138217/en/hp_creo2_p10.pdf, ATI FirePro V8800 card is supported for Creo Parametric 2.0. If you have graphics problems, you have to play with graphic card drivers. Try to install their current version.

Martin Hanak

Martin Hanák

ptc-4732235 · ‎Sep 17, 2012

Yes, installed the newest driver from ATI, which it suggests for Creo, but to no improvement. As soon as you click to rotate and object, it freezes, but then after 4/5 seconds it comes to life and it spins no problem at all, also right click on the mouse does not always work, no problem in any other program which is very strange. Even selecting new tools cause it to freeze, could there be more options within the graphics card options that havent being taken advantge of for some reason I wonder? or purely a driver issue?

MartinHanak · ‎Sep 17, 2012

Declan,

I suggest you to test the problem on simple model (e.g. cube) and if it is reproducible, then report it to PTC Support.

Martin Hanak

Martin Hanák

HugoBarosa · ‎Sep 17, 2012

Rank	Score (secs)	Make	Model	Processor	Speed	Physical Memory	Graphics	OS	Version	Build
1	1132	Gruman Creations	GC-i7K	Core i7-2600K	3.4Ghz OC 4.8Ghz	8GB DDR3 @2133	Nvidia Quadro 4000 270.71	Win7 Pro x64	Creo Parametric 2.0	F001 x64
2	1186	Custom	Homebuilt	Core i5-2500K	3.3Ghz OC 4.7Ghz	16GB DDR3 @1333	Nvidia GTX 570 SLI	Windows 7 Ultimate	Creo Parametric 2.0	m010
3	1295	Gruman Creations	GC-i7K	Core i7-2600K	3.4Ghz OC 4.8Ghz	8GB DDR3 @2133	Nvidia Quadro 4000 270.71	Win7 Pro x64	Creo Parametric 1.0	M030 x64
4	1450	Custom	N/A (Home Built)	Intel Core i5-3570K	3.4 OC to 4.7GHz	16GB @ 1600	Nvidia Quadro 2000, 276.28	Windows 7 Pro 64-bit	Creo ElementsPro 5.0	M060 (64-bit)
5	1463	Gruman Creations	GC-i7K	Core i7-2600K	3.4Ghz OC 4.8Ghz	8GB DDR3 @2133	Nvidia Quadro 4000 270.71	Win7 Pro x64	Creo ElementsPro 5.0	M130 x64
6	1583	Custom	J500	Intel i7-2700K	3.6GHz@4.8GHz	32 GB 1333MHz	Quadro 4000 (297.03)	Windows 7 Pro x64	Creo ElementsPro 5.0	WF5 x64 M020
7	1640	Dell	Precision M6600	Core i7-2760QM	2.4Ghz Turbo@3.5Ghz	8GB DDR3 @1600	Nvidia Quadro 3000M 276.05	Win7 Pro x64	Creo Parametric 2.0	F001 x64
8	1662	Lenovo	S30	E5-1620	3,6GHz	32GB	Quadro 4000 V4.3.980.0	Win7 SP1	Creo Parametric 2.0	M010
9	1780	Dell	M6600	Intel Core i7 2720	2.2GHz	16GB	Nvidia Quadro 4000M (275.19)	Win7 Pro x64	Creo Parametric 2.0	M010
10	1823	HP	EilteBook 8560w	Intel Core i7-2640M	2.80 GHz	8 Gb	nVidia Quadro 1000M	Win7 Pro SP1	Creo Parametric 2.0	F001-64
11	1834	Dell	Precision M6600	Core i7-2760QM	2.4Ghz Turbo@3.5Ghz	8GB DDR3 @1600	Nvidia Quadro 3000M 276.05	Win7 Pro x64	Creo Parametric 1.0	M030 x64
12	1841	Gruman Creations	GC-i7	Core i7-920	3.2Ghz OC 3.75Ghz	6GB DDR3 @1500	Nvidia Quadro FX3800 191.66	Win7 Pro x64	Creo Parametric 2.0	F001 x64
13	2016	Dell	Precision M6600	Core i7-2760QM	2.4Ghz Turbo@3.5Ghz	8GB DDR3 @1600	Nvidia Quadro 3000M 276.05	Win7 Pro x64	Creo ElementsPro 5.0	M130 x64
14	2031	Dell	T7500	INTEL XEON	3.47	12	QUADRO FX 1800	WINDOWS 7 PRO	Creo Parametric 2.0	F001
15	2049	Dell	T7400	INTEL XEON X5272 3.40GHz	3.40GHz	8.00 Go	NVIDIA QUADRO FX 5600 275.89	windows 7 pro 64 bits	Creo Parametric 2.0	F001
16	2056	Lenovo	S 20	Xeon W3550	3.07GHz	12 GB	Quadro FX 1800 - V296.35	Win7x64 SP1	Creo Parametric 2.0	F000
17	2090	Gruman Creations	GC-i7	Core i7-920	3.2Ghz OC 3.75Ghz	6GB DDR3 @1500	Nvidia Quadro FX3800 191.66	Win7 Pro x64	Creo ElementsPro 5.0	M130 x64
18	2135	Dell	Precision M6500	Intel Core i7-920XM	2.0GHz	12GB, 1333Mhz	NVIDIA Quadro FX 3800M (296.70)	Windows 7 Professional SP1 x64	Creo Parametric 2.0	F001
19	2148	Dell	Studio XPS	Core I7 870	2.93	8Gb	ATI FirePro V4800	Windows 7 SP1	Creo Parametric 2.0	F001
20	2214	Dell	T7500	INTEL XEON	3.47	12	QUADRO FX 1800	WINDOWS 7 PRO	Creo Parametric 1.0	M030

This rank is from a benchmark for Creo in www.proesite.com

You can download the benchmark and compare to other machines.

PhilippeBREVET · ‎Sep 17, 2012

Hello

We see that the best computers are not certified, is this normal?

I tested our pc and I get a result of 2031, I am currently number 14.

HugoBarosa · ‎Sep 17, 2012

Hello,

Yes it's normal, all certified computers or workstations have some months, i mean that the parts are not new and you can't control many things. In my computer i get a 4th or 5th place. And if you see the first places are from overclocked computers as mine .

ptc-4732235 · ‎Sep 17, 2012

Anyone know why no one chooses the ati firepro cards? I bought the ati firpro v8800 firegl after been told it was pritty much the best i could get at the time, and now when i run creo its really slow and freezing non stop

HugoBarosa · ‎Sep 17, 2012

Hello,

Cad, Cam, ...anything under openGL is for NVidia.

Nvidia Quadro 4000 is one of the best video cards ever. But i bet your problem is not from your graphic card. Test this, start your Creo without any config file and try.

ptc-4732235 · ‎Sep 17, 2012

Hi, how do i start with no config?

HugoBarosa · ‎Sep 17, 2012

Erase it from the startup directory

ptc-4732235 · ‎Sep 17, 2012

Well i tried running with no config, and it went back to how bad it was before i enabled the opengl. Im running the benchmark mentioned above but my ram is running at 86% and cpu only 9%, It states a minimum of 8GB of ram for 64-bit on the benchmark, could this be the bottle neck? I have corsair 3x2 ddr3 installed, with three slots left in dimm A1, B1 and C1 and my mb. Would 3x4GB in each of the remaining slots fix it? Bringing total ram up to 18GB

Bit of an update: now even interent window changing is lagging and general selection of anything. ran antivirus and all is ok, and iv reset the graphics card back to factory reset.

JonathanHodgson · ‎Sep 18, 2012

I doubt it's memory unless you're opening very large, detailed assemblies. I've just opened a complete automotive gearbox assembly (a complete product from our point of view), and xtop.exe (the actual Pro/E application) is using about 1.5 GB, so 6 GB should be plenty unless you're modelling the entire Mars lander, for example.

ptc-4732235 · ‎Sep 18, 2012

Then im lost altogether, iv looked online the the v8800 seems the to be right up there.somethings not right

MartinHanak · ‎Sep 18, 2012

Declan,

try to turn off AERO GUI (+restart PC).

Martin Hanak

Martin Hanák

ptc-4732235 · ‎Sep 18, 2012

Thanks martin, will give that ago when i get back this evening and let you know how it goes

ptc-4732235 · ‎Sep 19, 2012

Finally got it all working,

but im none the wiser as to what actually wasnt right.

I uninstalled creo completely, uninstalled new GPU drivers and suite and reverted back to old ones (2010).

Did a system defrag and c drive, rebooted and reinstalled new GPU driver and suite again. Reintalled creo, and set config to graphics - opengl (not the 32 one), aslo enabled opengl, and it works:), from what i can see anyway.iv no idea what was wrong. Id be very interested to see how it would do on a large assembly. To compare it against different GPU's like the nvidea quadro's etc

Is there anywhere on the net where you can get a big assembly to test it?

Also thanks to all who gave me suggestions throughout!

HugoBarosa · ‎Sep 19, 2012

Test with a benchmark now and comprare with other graphic cards with same cpu

ptc-4732235 · ‎Sep 20, 2012

Ok iv downloaded the spec and ocus benchmarks, and cannot start either, please say there is a way of running these without the crazy instructions given in the read me's?

HugoBarosa · ‎Sep 21, 2012

You have to open the your Creo program with the benchmark config.pro and run the trail file only

BurtLand · ‎Sep 29, 2012

The benchmarks usually have big assemblies - one has the PTC car which can be extracted easily.

Sometimes a clean install of graphics driver is all thats needed to get things to work properly.

Be interesting to compare ATI Vx900 to ATI Vx800 - supposed to be big improvements.