cancel
Showing results for 
Search instead for 
Did you mean: 
cancel
Showing results for 
Search instead for 
Did you mean: 

Status of implementing ISO 14405 Symbols

SOLVED
Level 1

Status of implementing ISO 14405 Symbols

Hello,

I just want to know what the status is to implement the ISO 14405 symbols. The topic was asked in 2015 already. It was promised that it will be implemented in the "next release".

see Link:

If yes, where can I find the symbols. (Creo 2.0 / M210 and Creo 3.0 / M110)

In case of it is not implemented, is it possible to cerate a intelligent Symbol with "oval" frame. Intelligent means, that the frame adjust itself to the text length (max. 3 letters in the oval frame/ font size does not change).

     for example for "SPC" or "cpk"

Thanks in advance

  • Drawing
1 ACCEPTED SOLUTION

Accepted Solutions

Re: Status of implementing ISO 14405 Symbols

This was indeed implemented in Creo 4.0.

To see the updated symbols, you will need to set the Detail Option "symbol_font" to either ASME or ISO. (Go to File > Prepare > Model Properties > Detail Options > Change)

Then, when you are editing an annotation where it is possible to insert a symbol, you will see the updated symbol palette.

The difference between ASME and ISO values of the "symbol_font" Detail Option is only for the appearance of the symbol font. The same characters are available for both ASME and ISO.

You can also see a brief description of this enhancement in the What's New in Creo 4.0 section of the Creo Help Center:

Creo Parametric Help Center

13 REPLIES

Re: Status of implementing ISO 14405 Symbols

This was indeed implemented in Creo 4.0.

To see the updated symbols, you will need to set the Detail Option "symbol_font" to either ASME or ISO. (Go to File > Prepare > Model Properties > Detail Options > Change)

Then, when you are editing an annotation where it is possible to insert a symbol, you will see the updated symbol palette.

The difference between ASME and ISO values of the "symbol_font" Detail Option is only for the appearance of the symbol font. The same characters are available for both ASME and ISO.

You can also see a brief description of this enhancement in the What's New in Creo 4.0 section of the Creo Help Center:

Creo Parametric Help Center

Community Champion

Re: Status of implementing ISO 14405 Symbols

You missed these...     

Re: Status of implementing ISO 14405 Symbols

lol...

Level 8

Re: Status of implementing ISO 14405 Symbols

They're definitely engineering symbols!  I've seen engineers make all of those faces!

Level 7

Re: Status of implementing ISO 14405 Symbols

Would be nice if that drop down box ( and many others in the system) would automatically expand (or be extended by default) down in length so all elements would show and save the user aggravation in having to scroll in that little box. The overview as such is so minimal. Windchill is notoriously plagued with such and using it so all day long can make a user nauseous. Effectivity in "using" WT could be improved dramatically. Of course, PTC programmers don't "use" WT, so they'd never notice. A small thing you say. So is a thorn. Go sit on one EVERY day for eight hours and tell me how small the thorn is.

Re: Status of implementing ISO 14405 Symbols

Yes, I agree that the usability of this small symbols palette could be improved.

We're looking into some options for that in the future.

Level 7

Re: Status of implementing ISO 14405 Symbols

Thank you. I look forward to HUGE improvements in user ergononics through making such small adjustments.

(The worst thing about scrolling such little windows, is that this "additional" task of having to scroll as well is a distraction from the original task at hand which is find and select a target. Save us and watch for that kind of thing during the implementation of new wonderful features - lest they just become new drudgery features.)

Level 8

Re: Status of implementing ISO 14405 Symbols

A side note, it was mentioned that similar issues exist in Windchill.  It may be worth specifically mentioning them (if this is not already done) in that forum, as I don't expect they would notice this Creo discussion, or know which particular workflows are less-than-ideal.

Community Champion

Re: Status of implementing ISO 14405 Symbols

I have previously suggested to a guy named Mike who is in charge of some people at PTC that there needs to be a UI group and was told that every product manager is on their own to make things best for their own little piece, even if it's inconsistent with other groups. So Sketcher still works differently than the 2D drawing mode.