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Ability to call up the Description from a Material applied to an individual body in note or drawing

Ability to call up the Description from a Material applied to an individual body in note or drawing

Following the multibody ability, and the fact that a description can be added to a material created (To a maximum 80 characters I believe) it makes sense that you could call up this information for drawings and notes. This is particularly important when creating large assembly drawings where multiple labels/notes are needed to illustrate materials and parts within an in assembly drawing. 

 

This would dramatically reduce the time it takes to label up materials, and allows for single point changes to the .mtl file to update all associated drawings. It also removes the risk of miss labelling information.

 

An example might be something along the lines of:

 

"&PTC_ASSIGNED_MATERIAL:att_body" - So if the item changes to a different material - Say 304 SS to 316 SS, or even Mild Steel Galv, the material description could be updated in the note. 

 

The note 

allows for more information than simply the material type. It could say:

 

"Mild Steel hot dip galvanized, degreased and fettled back to remove any imperfections."

 

or

 

"Mild steel, galvanized. Please refer to engineers calcs. for strength and finish spec."

 

This would make labelling/noting drawings a 2 click process with the appropriate UDF being set up. This would be a huge time saver for if you have a list of your own materials that you use within the modelling process. It also ensures that any update to the 'master model' percolates through to the notes/labels.

6 Comments
Mfridman
15-Moonstone
Status changed to: Current Functionality

Hi @JS_9179238 

In Creo 8.0 we have added the support for the note syntax that you have listed above: "&PTC_ASSIGNED_MATERIAL:att_body" - this means that the name of assigned body material will be shown in a note, based on which body the leader is attached to.

you can also create custom body parameters and use those instead of the PTC_ASSIGNED_MATERIAL if you want to show in a note other attributes of the body

Marking this product idea as "Current Functionality"

 

Thanks,

Michael Fridman

Creo Product Manager

JS_9179238
3-Visitor

Hi @Mfridman 

 

Thanks for this, I have updated to 8.0.4.0 and can see this functionality.

 

What would be more beneficial would be if we could actually apply the 81 character material body description, as noted above. Essentially something like:

&PTC_MATERIAL_DESCRIPTION:att_body

 

Is this possible to be implemented also? This would be incredibly useful for drawing automation in the technical stages.

 

Thanks in advance!

 

Kind regards

 

Joe

 

 

JS_9179238
3-Visitor

@Mfridman please see images illustrating the logic below:

 

The material description is called up and then displayed in the note.

Description call upDescription call up

 

Text from Material description brought into the noteText from Material description brought into the note

JS_9179238
3-Visitor

@Mfridman - Is it possible to look into this further? This would be incredibly useful to us considering the 100's of drawing sheets needing this data.


Thanks in advance!

 

Mfridman
15-Moonstone

Hi @JS_9179238 

I did some queries internally and it seems that the material description parameter is owned by a different owner (the material),

This is the reason why this attachment based callout cannot work on such a parameter.

In order for this to work, we would need to create additional linkage between the assigned material of the respective body and its material properties/description. it would be a project level work that we might consider for the future

JS_9179238
3-Visitor

@Mfridman  - thanks for looking into things. I think this functionality is really important for the following reasons:

1 - Once you create a new material, the name of this material is 'locked' so if the material applied is named to a specific convention the &PTC_ASSIGNED_MATERIAL:att_body function will show the file name, and not necessarily what you want to show for clients/customers. eg: "0-W-MAT-STEICO36" instead of wanting to show "Steicoflex 036 Insulation". I know that we can rename the material in the part or assembly, but this would not extrapolate into new or older files - it is just in the 'live' working document. So this functionality will allow a streamlined workflow across multiple projects.

 

2 - The ability to call up the &PTC_MATERIAL_DESCRIPTION:att_body is able to be completed through parameters I believe? Or at least we can create strings to be imported for parameters. The issue here is that you are letting the user make mistakes. So this functionality will avoid user mistakes

3 - This would allow us to reapply materials when value engineering projects, and then subsequently streamline the re-specification of the materials.

 

 

Happy to discuss further with PTC and demonstrate the benefits. I have this functionality in other programs, so I feel it should be possible.

 

Thanks in advance.