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Creo Sketcher palette import section scale 1:1 setting

Creo Sketcher palette import section scale 1:1 setting

When importing a section from the palette, Creo sizes the imported section in relation to the bounding box.

To avoid mistakes, it would be great to have settings that puts the scale default on "1",
this way, some sections that are related to slotholes for certain bolts are shown correctly at once.

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23 Comments
adawkins
1-Newbie

Many of our sketcher palette items are standard sizes for o-ring grooves, slots, etc.  These should always be used with the scale of 1.0.  We would like to be able to set a default scale for some items in the palette instead of them coming in with a scale based on zoom in the sketcher window.

BlitzSpirit
3-Visitor

I agree; it is most annoying that the sketch is inserted with a random scale.

For information the PTC reference is https://www.ptc.com/appserver/cs/view/solution.jsp?n=CS127410

Please vote for this enhancement!

PTCModerator
Emeritus
Status changed to: Acknowledged
 
mneumueller
17-Peridot
Status changed to: Clarification Needed

Would it be required for that default scale of 1.0 to be configurable for each of the items in the palette?

or would any of the below already help?

a)  global config already help?

b) Or maybe a button in the UI to quickly set the scale to 1.0 instead of having to type in that number?

mmuhamedagic
6-Contributor

Hi All,

just a remark. As you probably all noticed, scale factor is set by default accordingly to windows/creo zoom during importation, and there is some kind connection between this. It should be easy for Creo developers to explore this bound and to do extra config option. If you agree of course. 

 

One click Button seems to be tempting, but it is better to have a option. Some time we (my company) need to import more than a hundred times different symbol from palette and no need for extra macro please. And it should be available in part/assembly mode as in drawing mode.

Thank you.

 

 

 

StephenW
23-Emerald II
StephenW
23-Emerald II

@mneumueller 

The randomness of the scale is confusing. The scale should always start with 1.000. For us, most of the shapes we use are size specific. Random number never works and must be changed everytime, a 1.000 scale would work for 99% of my palette items and I would only have to change it occasionally.

olivierlp
Community Manager
Status changed to: Clarification Needed

New idea merged with a older one. Status set to Clarification Needed as per @mneumueller comment. 

kdirth
20-Turquoise

As I see it, the best option would be for sketch (.sec) items to come in at 1:1 and pallet items should be configurable to come in at 1:1 with general pallet items scaling to window zoom.

Second best would be for everything to start a 1:1.

Kristof_D
13-Aquamarine

@olivierlp & @mneumueller  
I'd gladly help clarifying any questions that come up for this, could you guys give some feedback on what's unclear?

mneumueller
17-Peridot

I am just collecting input as to the level of sophistication required here.

a) fix  scale set to 1 by default

b) default global scale configurable by config option

c) current behavior but quick button to set 1:1 scale

d) individually defined default scale per palette entry in sketcher that would provide the option to  define a scaling factor or using the current zoom behavior

 

the above replies give a first indication, let's see whether more come in.

 

TomU
23-Emerald IV

I would prefer 'a' and then 'b' if 'a' isn't possible.

StephenW
23-Emerald II

I know I've already commented but I wanted to elaborate a little on how we are using the sketcher palette.

We have sketched up over 100 structural shapes that are exactly the size they need to be. Any random scale (based on zoom, I assume) always has to be editied to 1:1 scale. I understand that using the default PTC provided sketcher shapes are all general shapes of no specific size but even so, EVERY one of them has to be adjusted either in the scale input or afterward in a dimensional adjustment. So in every case, they are NEVER correctly sized and MUST be changed instead of just changing the ones that are scale independent.

 

I wouldn't be opposed to a option that allowed setting scale to 1:1 / based on zoom / "per palette entry" scale. 

I like having a 1:1 scale immediately simply because that makes a majority of MY sketches correctly sized on first placement with no adjustment.

kdirth
20-Turquoise

I would prefer option 'd' then 'a'.  

Chris3
20-Turquoise

I would prefer A) and then B) is A) isn't possible

BenLoosli
23-Emerald II

First choice would be A, then C, B and D.

S_Edgenear
14-Alexandrite

First A, then C, D and B.

mneumueller
17-Peridot
Status changed to: Under Consideration

thanks for the feedback

kamleshjoshi
15-Moonstone

Great enhancement

sayyadurai
8-Gravel

I don't know what stops PTC to implement this simple change. It will save a great amount of CAD users' time

CB_10781976
3-Visitor

Just wondering if there is an update on this?

 

vpozsga
3-Visitor

I also don't understand why this small change is such a big task. Besides, the random scale doesn't even make sense.

mneumueller
17-Peridot

the update is that it is considered and in the plans to be tackled soon. Stay tuned.