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ModelCHECK Metrics installation tool with bundled open source web server, tomcat and sql db.

ModelCHECK Metrics installation tool with bundled open source web server, tomcat and sql db.

ModelCHECK supports a Web-Enabled key performance indicator tool using data obtained from all users checking.  See help article: "About the Web-Enabled ModelCHECK Metrics Tool"

This product idea proposes an automated fully configurable installation tool that includes and sets up all the required software to allow the ModelCHECK metrics tool to be fully deployed.

ModelCHECK Metrics claims many great benefits, see the help to learn that you can offer the following benefits to your organization:

"The following are some of the information that the tool displays as graphs:

•  The errors and warnings recorded against users or groups

•  The distribution of the errors and warnings

•  The number of ModelCHECK initializations

•  A report of the failed checks

•  The experience levels of ModelCHECK users

•  The total investment on training

In addition, you can use this tool to perform the following functions:

•  Access the ModelCHECK and the training databases

•  Define a groups of users based on factors such as active projects and functional areas

•  Create check sets and map them against the users or groups

•  Check and monitor the experience levels of users

•  Monitor the quality of models for specific ModelCHECK failures

•  Evaluate the progress of the users or groups and the company against the company goals

•  View the overall company status and the status of the models, at a glance

•  Define the company's quality goals based on the checks, errors, and warnings "

BUT you can't do ANY of this utill you:

- Install a Java Software Development Kit.

- Install Tomcat for Java Web Services Developer Pack.

- Teach yourself the required settings for these tools and make specific settings to allow Model CHECK Metrics tool to run.

- Install a Web Server.

- Oh and, you need to know how to set up an SQL compatible database to hold all the data.

Granted there is high level help included for this.  But it's a case where the help says "Install xyz tool" and to do that you'll end up reading for 2 days, and making a 5 page configuration guide for your records.  Then you can move to step 2 in the help process...  basically I would estimate a month of time to set this up assuming no fully experienced IT team to set these required supporting technologies in place.

So basically you need a very capable IT team to set this up including at least a Web Developer, SQL DBA on top of running Creo and supporting users.

What are your thoughts?  Please vote on this idea and add your comments!

11 Comments
slapha
15-Moonstone

I have a feeling this will someday become a Thingworx addition, or part of the Performance Advisor.

Though, I'm not sure if that's wishful thinking or anti-wishful thinking.

JimTVancouverCa
1-Newbie

That would be great too.  We just need a solution that doesn't require a whole IT team to figure out.

BenLoosli
23-Emerald II

All part of PTC's marketing strategy to get the customer to buy service time for GSO to do the installation in 1 week.

Windchill initial configuration is the same way. So many manuals to have open as you go through the initial setup, because you gave to go to this manual for part A and that manual for part B. And this is AFTER you have negotiated the manuals to do the install. The install of OOTB Windchill is a piece of cake compared to the initial configuration of how you want Windchill to look and work for you.

mdebower
18-Opal

On one hand, ModelCheck has not been changed in any significant way for YEARS, so don't hold your breath.  On the other hand,  maybe it is due and we will see some progress....

STEVEG
21-Topaz I

Marc DeBower wrote:

On the other hand,  maybe it is due and we will see some progress....

You're a funny person Marc. 

mdebower
18-Opal

...all part of the many services I offer.  

BenLoosli
23-Emerald II

PTC purchased ModelCheck so they don't have a lot of people in development who understand the internal works.

It would be nice to see the interface changes so it can be setup easier, but setup is usually a one-time deal, so no incentive to do anything.

PTC will sell you a contract with GSO and they can come in and do your ModelCheck setup for you. The problem with this is "Do you understand what needs checked today?"

I have setup ModelCheck at a prior company and it took me months to fine-tune the checks so our designers modeled parts that would pass the ModelCheck investigation. I have ModelCheck here and have not even looked at the files behind it in 5+ years, except once when we added a new security classification check.

JimTVancouverCa
1-Newbie

Hello Ben,

I totally agree with your comments.  That being said, how many people take one look at documentation and just think: "No way, I don't have 3 weeks to dedicate to this!" and then can't benefit from it.

The result of a lightly supported admin backside to Creo is that the customer looses, and PTC looses because the customer has one less thing to keep them with PTC.  At my last employer I had to fend off the "Why don't we *just* switch to SolidWorks, after all we get 10x as many resume's with people who know SolidWorks than people that know Creo."... and I'm now working at a SolidWorks site. Everywhere out here in Metro Vancouver, BC, Canada SolidWorks prevails.

- Jim

llie
16-Pearl

ModelCheck Metrics, isn't this something that they abandoned a long time ago or is this what used to be called XMA?

JimTVancouverCa
1-Newbie

From what I've heard these are very different products.  ModelCheck metrics is a database of the results of all the ModelChecks as you define the modelcheck configuration.  It is very specific to your company's configuration of ModelCHECK.

XMA, Expert Model Analysis last I heard is a Global Services product service where a portion of your Creo vault in Windchill can be automatically analysed for Creo best modelling practises.  Then custom training programs can be designed for your users based on this.  See your PTC rep for more details.

Best Regards,

- Jim

lwestbrook
16-Pearl
Status changed to: Under Consideration

The current Metrics Tool has been discontinued. See the following article: https://www.ptc.com/en/support/article?n=CS294562&language=en&posno=4&q=modelcheck%20metrics&source=...

 

That said, we are looking into building out a more robust solution, so this feedback is great! 

 

Luke