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Prevent removal of parameters in drawing tables from formats

Prevent removal of parameters in drawing tables from formats

We have drawing formats where there are model parameters linked to the title block cells. Many users end up accidentally removing the parameter call outs in their drawing (like &PROI_REVISION, &DESCRIPTION, etc) as they attempt to edit it. The models end up getting released with these broken links because the approvers/managers are not concerned about this. However, the admins are. We end up with parameters or attributes in Windchill either missing or incorrect from this. Can we have a way to lock the cells where they can't remove the parameter, BUT can still edit the value of the parameter?

 

Thanks!

10 Comments
Sapphire I

That issue is usually a lack of training for the users so they understand that they need to edit those parameters, not the block of information itself. Explain the importance of using the parameters. Show them what problems it causes when they revise a drawing and need something to change. Show them the information in Windchill, if you have it linked and the information uploaded.

Alexandrite

Ben,

We can talk extensively offline about this. In short, there are many factors that created this behavior. That being said, there is a focus on having the 'print' correct and not wasting time on anything else, including Windchill or basic "tool" requirements (like geometry checks, read only features...). The idea of this ticket is to limit the users who either don't know, don't care or don't want to do the extra clicks to either fix a drawing or correctly enter data in cells with parameters.

Sapphire I

I agree, that there are outside forces that create these situations, usually managers pushing to get that print released. I have been in your shoes with users who just don't want to be bothered to learn how to use the system the way the company admins have it set up. Luckily I am in a small company and I send out 'broken finger' awards to those who mess up the files by circumventing parameters. Larger organizations with multiple sites, this becomes harder. I have been an admin for sites of 10, 50 and 250 users.

 

Maybe change the scope a little of your request to have restricted table blocks that force the user to edit them in the parameter menu, rather on the face of the drawing. We already have restricted parameters that force the user to select the value from a drop down menu. Adding a restriction to designated table cells would do the trick.

 

Alexandrite

Nice idea, but many of these fields (like title) can't be a restricted parameter.

Sapphire I

Read my response again.

Restricted parameters are one method of controlling the 'right' verbage in a cell.

 

What You are asking for is what I said in my last paragraph: Make the cells in a table restricted so the values cannot be overwritten, only changed by editing a parameter.

Alexandrite

Do you have documentation on how to do this?

Sapphire I

No, PTC would need to modify the code for cells to be restricted.

Alexandrite

I'm asking how to do what you asked "Make the cells in a table restricted so the values cannot be overwritten,"

Sapphire I

I know and it would have to be a functionality change of the way table cells are created and stored. Only PTC can make such a change to their code.

 

Alexandrite

OK. I thought you were giving me some current alternative.