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Reduce mouse clicks all over the interface

Reduce mouse clicks all over the interface

Creo has drastically more clicks throughout the interface, then Solidworks.

The interface should be more intuitive, with alot less clicks.

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Moonstone

Which version of Creo are you talking about exactly?

Because since Creo4 the interface has been improved much.

Contributor

Creo 4.0 M020 is the version we are using. So version 5.0.1.0 has alot less clicks?

Moonstone

No, Creo4 and newer versions have a better UI concept than Creo3 and older versions.

But I don't know, if the UI concepts can be compared and measured by the number of clicks.

 

In my opinion, the performance of a system is not determined by the number of clicks:
If you calculate 10 milliseconds per click and you can save 10000 clicks per day by optimizations, that makes a total saving of only 100 seconds. That's irrelevant.
The general user interface concept (and this is really good since Creo4) as well as the offered functions of the system make up the performance.

Contributor

I'm not thinking off time savings from clicks, exactly. 

What i mean is that alot of things is under submenus or under specific ribons. Which is more time consuming then the actual click.

fx. i wan't to make a section view on a drawing.

Solidworks 2017 :

In drawing:

"click" section view.

"click" were you wan't the section cut.

"click" were you wan' the view.

 

Creo 4.0 :

On model:

"click" view ribbon.

"click" section

"click" Surface/plane/edge that you want the cut placed.

"click" to move section to the place that you wan't the cut.

"click" accept.

"right click" rename.

"Keyboard" A.

"Keyboard" Enter

"mapkey" ed (to open drawing) ( i know this can be different, some user to user).

In drawing:

"click" layout ribbon.

"click" general view.

"click" OK.

"click" to place view.

"double click"  "x" orientation.

"click" sections.

"click" 2D cross-sektion.

"click" + icon.

"click" dropdown bar.

"click" A

"click" pan to right in window.

"click" arrow display.

"click" view to display arrow.

"click" OK.

 

This take alot more time, and in time causes sore joints in my finger. In time and and worst case, maybe even worn out my finger joints.

Moonstone

The first mistake you've made is, that you define sections in drawings.

I recommend to define them in the 3D model and then you just switch the representation of a drawing view to a section view.

The seconde mistake you've made is, to not use the power of mapkeys.

 

I'm just a stupid outsider, but my feeling is that you're not using the system properly yet.
Actually, it's a matter of training and experience.

Is my assumption correct that you are a long-time Solidworks user and Creo is quite new to you?

Contributor

"Is my assumption correct that you are a long-time Solidworks user and Creo is quite new to you?"

Bingo!

 

"The first mistake you've made is, that you define sections in drawings.

I recommend to define them in the 3D model and then you just switch the representation of a drawing view to a section view."

this i what i described, or do i misunderstand what you mean?

 

"The seconde mistake you've made is, to not use the power of mapkeys."

Why? i feel like they are helping me? is there a better way? if there is, pleace show me!

 

I'm just a stupid outsider, but my feeling is that you're not using the system properly yet.
Actually, it's a matter of training and experience.

the whole office is doing it this way. Some of them have years of experience in Creo. So maybe we all need some traning, from someone with deep knowledge in Creo. 

Moonstone

Sorry, I missed the text "On model". So, of course, this approach fits.
For sure I did not check all the steps (and if there would be shorter ways).

 

You must have misunderstood me about the Mapkeys: Use them where possible!

 

We have configured the "Quick Access Toolbar" in such a way that we hardly need the ribbon any more.

 

I don't want to presume to recommend training courses to you.
Especially because I don't find PTC's standard training courses very helpful anyway.
As you said yourself, the best tips are known by the long-time power users of Creo!
And these are not at PTC (exceptions confirm the rule) but in various forums.
Plus, they help you out without asking for money.

 

I would approach the matter in such a way that I describe my special problems (like e.g. the cut-view creation described by you) here in the forum and discuss with other users.
If you speak German like me, the CAD.de forum would be my first choice.

 

If you create an idea here, don't formulate it too common.

E.g. in this case now, PTC's answer would be: "We're constantly optimizing the user interface concept."

I think you can only achieve something with an idea if you can describe the problem in detail.
At best, you can also make a suggestion as to how something could work in an optimized way.

Contributor

firstly, thx for all the good advice!

 

i'm eager to learn, so i will do all i can to find the best way in Creo.

And as you've noticed, i'm having a hard time not to compare everything to solidworks.

 

i will thinkt of more specific suggestions, instead off this common one.

 

once again, thank you for enlightening me!