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Does anyone else think pen tables are a little out of date?

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Does anyone else think pen tables are a little out of date?

OK, so we are almost in 2017, can anyone out there remember using a plotter that used pens?  If so then you probably remember when pen tables made sense. 20 years on and perhaps just being able to control line weights directly - as with almost every other CAD program in the world might be a step forward.

 

In stead we have yet another configuration file to get the main configuration file to point to, how many options files does Creo 3 have dotted about?  I'm aware of about 10 different ones I think.

 

Am I the only one who thinks its an unholy mess that belongs in the dark ages of CAD pre 2000, or might it be a good idea to consolidate all the options in one place with meaningful names.

 

Just a thought, interested to hear if anyone likes the existing system.

 

Cheers

 

Stephen

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Re: Does anyone else think pen tables are a little out of date?

Hi,

I agree that current pentable functionality is not perfect. But .. I was always able to set pentable properly to get requested output.

MH


Martin Hanák

Re: Does anyone else think pen tables are a little out of date?

I haven't used SW since I did a beginners course over 5 years ago, since posting previous, I thought, OK, what happens if I export a STEP, import to SW, create a drawing and see if I can control the pen weights - so blooming easy, just bumped about for a few mins and I have a better drawing than Creo that  I use for far tooooooo many hours a day.

Lucky its a 1/3 the price of Creo so I can keep a license maintained just for drawings!

Luckily I'm confident that PTC will have ironed out such woeful UI elements in Creo4 lol.

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Re: Does anyone else think pen tables are a little out of date?

Oh, sorry, and copare this to the help file for Creo which kicks of with how to reconfigure two sections of the config file to point to a pentable,  and then:

The line style may be customized for each pen using the following convention:

pattern (first line segment length) (first space length) (second line segment length) (second space

length) (units)

Example: pen 3 pattern 0.1 0.05 0.025 0.05 in

  1. ARGgghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

Really?  Is this a 21st century interface?

Re: Does anyone else think pen tables are a little out of date?

"Really?  Is this a 21st century interface?"


Must be, its the 21st century and it's working...

Re: Does anyone else think pen tables are a little out of date?

Very true, it is for some lucky folks...... but that makes my great grandfather's pocket watch 21st century too.

Unfortunately, it isn't working for me. I get things like leader lines that all look the same colour that then all print some in one colour some in another to PDF.

Re: Does anyone else think pen tables are a little out of date?

Hi,

I think that this discussion does not help you to solve any problem with setting pen weights. If you are really searching for a help, please open new discussion and describe, what problem do you need to solve. Then I can try to provide some solution.

That's my last reply inside this discussion.

MH


Martin Hanák

Re: Does anyone else think pen tables are a little out of date?

Apparently you can still by them. 

The AxiDraw Drawing Machine

Re: Does anyone else think pen tables are a little out of date?

Thank You Tom,

That's good, It looks as if changing line weight on that would be intuitive, straightforward, clear colour indication is provided, which is a lovely feature, I think called WYSIWYG back in the day, (not by PTC obviously) , so I just use that, scan in and save as a PDF. Might still be quicker, so many thanks for the suggestion.

Stephen

Re: Does anyone else think pen tables are a little out of date?

Vey true, it won't help me solve the riddle of pen tables, but it wasn't supposed to.

It was about canvassing opinion on whether the PTC UI is woefully out of date and difficult to navigate, I've asked my support contract for help, they sent me several PDFs to try to assist.  They are trying, but can only do so much to help.  I compared to SW. I know there isn't an easy way to do it in PTC, so no point in asking for "help" as such, I'm asking "do you think that pen tables are out of date" i.e. need updating, not can you help me decipher the maze of a UI that I feel PTC have woven, or rather tangled, over the last 20 years.