I agree, it takes more mouse clicks than it used to.
Another thing that bugs me is, if you leave a measurement from a part on the screen then it shows up in any assmbly that part is in. And if you click on #Manage Analysis # Hide All in that assembly, it doesn't hide it. It has happened that I see a measurement in an assembly that I don't remember where I made it, and I have to go through opening the parts until I find the part that has the measurement, the hide it. Now that is annoying.
i have 2 mapkeys, one is "ss" and the other "id", im sure most can figure out ss is to measure surface to surface and id is to measure id's and od's.
if i use ss mapkey and get a measurement, it seems to work fine even though i dislike having to use the control button to select my second surface but nonetheless it seems to work ok and i close the measure tool, if i use the id mapkey that seems to work just fine also, my problem comes in when i run the ss mapkey to measure from surface to surface i get my value and then WITHOUT closing the original measure menu i hit id to measure an id, this will crash my session everytime but here is the kicker, i can run the id mapkey without a measure menu already open and then run the ss mapkey and it wont crash, but if i run the id mapkey after the ss mapkey, 100% gauranteed i will crash it.
this is the error i get when i crash the session when running measure mapkeys without closing the menu box between measures:
fatal error occured. a traceback has been written to XXXXXXXXXtraceback.log please send it to technical support.
i also really hate the fact that i CANNOT close the measure menu with a simple couple of middle mouse clicks.
Not using Creo yet - does ctrl-a still function as an all purpose reset?
Also - a plug to AutoIT, the all purpose tool that can eliminate window whack-a-mole with a routine for putting windows where you want them. I used it all the time to move the assembly component window to a second screen. So long pop-under; too small; always in the way; any number of other irritating conditions.
I'm curious if you've tried the new measure summary tool? I added it to the quick access toolbar so it's always available. I think it may be faster than your mapkeys.
Mapkey - 2 keystrokes, click, ctrl, click
Summary - click icon, click, ctrl, click.
The nice thing is you can use it for both measurements. If you click two surfaces, you get the distance between (and total surface area and angle, if they're planar). If you click the single diameter, you get the diameter measurement (and the surface area).
If you haven't played with the measurement summary tool, give it a try. It's a different workflow, but I find it much better than the old separate tools for each measurement type.
click icon, click, ctrl, click, expand, expand, resize window on the first measure of the session
click icon, click, ctrl, click, resize window on every measure after the first per session
i dont know man, i thought the measure tool worked just fine in WF.
i'm really trying to be open minded and as flexible as i can with creo, maybe i just havent got to the point where all the creo changes make sense in my head. its very frustrating for sure.
thanks for the reply Doug, i'll keep pushing forward with creo, i simply don't have any other option.
I agree that having the results window closed is ridiculous and not having a means of forcing it open every time is more so. Still, technically you don't need it open to see the measurement.
However, I get your frustration with the new workflow. I feel the same way about other software a lot of times, thankfully not yet with Creo. For example, lots of people love Solidworks and claim it's simple and just works. It frankly drives me batty.
I never liked having a dedicated measure tool for each type (distance, area, length, etc.), I really like being able to pick two items and getting (almost) all the measurements possible. The tool has some rough edges, but I find it to be a great improvement. To each his own, I guess.
On your mapkeys, what if you recorded them to close the measure window first, then open a new one with the measurement you want? I'd assume that if there was no measure window open, that command would be ignored and it would still work fine.
i would assume that would work too. i may try giving that a go here in a few. ill report later if it worked.
here where i work its mostly solidworks guys, just me running WF4 and we resently went to creo, they are having me teach pro-e/creo to some open minded SW users which i think is great, but im constantly harrassed(in fun of course) about how complicated pro-e/creo is, and i agree, its no where near as intuitive as SW which i can also run and i do like it, but i still prefer pro-e over SW. i been on Pro-e since version 2000i back in mid 2000 and i absolutely love pro-e, but its hard to not realize its migrating more and more to what SW looks and acts like, and i dont like that.
SolidWorks infection my eye! ...and I'm putting that nicely...The SWX measure tool gives you Delta XYZ and always has. I'm actually having to break out my calculator and subtract X1 from X2 to get delta X, etc. in CREO. This is 3D CAD 101 and I'm dumbfounded at the oversight.
This can be done without your calculator. See the image below. After you pick the two pionts, you need to activate the Projection collector (outlined in red) and hold down the control key as you pick the CSYS you want to use for your x,y,and z components.
Thanks to talk about the blue "i", I like it too. After you save the measurments, you can find them in analysis, it is good to display or hide the measurements as drafts.