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Dwg Basic Dimension Quantity In or Out of Box

Re: Dwg Basic Dimension Quantity In or Out of Box

"Kevin Demarco" wrote:

I'm not trying to criticise you or your understanding of where it's suppose to be positioned. I'm trying to get your perspective on when the number of times would be positioned outside the control frame and why, since you have Geometric Dimensioning Tolerancing experince, or do you think there is an error. The examples I refered to are from the Reaffirmed 2004 version of ASME Y14.5M-1994 in 4.5.12 (picture on page 71) and 6.5.1 (picture on page 166). For both of these the number of times is outside the control frame of a basic dimension. Is there a reason for it being outside, is it an error, As far as ProE goes I created a model that had the same diameter pattern of holes in WF3 and WF4. The dimension was a shown dimension and the number of times was added in the Dimension Properties dialog box in both versions however it displays differently. In WF3 the number of times is inside the control frame but in WF4 it is outside the control frame when Basic is selected under the display section of the dialog box. As far as I can tell the settings that apply to both versions are the same.

Re: Dwg Basic Dimension Quantity In or Out of Box

Thanks everyone for the workaround. CM - Did you work with Foster at the big red H? I've heard he worked at our Minneapolis division. For what its worth, our viewpoint is the BASIC dimension is a theoretically exact size that is modified by a tolerance of location. Quantity would not need a tolerance. Quantity 6 holes +/- 2 holes? Therfore not part of the BASIC box. (Not that it matters all that much) What would be great is if there was a forum on the ASME experts to bring up these questions. Maybe there is and we haven't found it.

Re: Dwg Basic Dimension Quantity In or Out of Box

"Stephan Klein" wrote:

Thanks everyone for the workaround. CM - Did you work with Foster at the big red H? I've heard he worked at our Minneapolis division. For what its worth, our viewpoint is the BASIC dimension is a theoretically exact size that is modified by a tolerance of location. Quantity would not need a tolerance. Quantity 6 holes +/- 2 holes? Therfore not part of the BASIC box. (Not that it matters all that much) What would be great is if there was a forum on the ASME experts to bring up these questions. Maybe there is and we haven't found it. 😉