Ohio #1, in dying cities

[ptc-726111]

I found this article to be interesting. Finally Ohio is number one in
something. Unfortunately, it is dying cities. I guess outsourcing
manufacturing to China has not been as helpful to the state economy as
promised by the economists and politicians (Republicans & Democrats).





Columbus Dispatch:

of the U.S. is in rougher shape than ever, still searching for some way to
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[bbrejcha]

Chris,

I saw the same thing on yahoo this morning. I figure that backbone
manufacturing State Ohio has most major cities and is easiest target.
Looking at England where manufacturing practically left that country 30
years ago... The USA States are only just behind them. The good thing is
that there is still a good 20 years left in the designers and engineers for
some good Pro/ENGINEER design work.

What we need is a good war to fuel the economy. Oh... we used that chip
already. <implied sarcasm=">

Bart Brejcha
*DESIGN-ENGINE|**EDUCATION*

[msproe]

Well that explains why I ended up in Minnesota when my old job(in
Cincinnati, Ohio) went to China. Couldn't find another job in the area
that didn't require a substantial pay cut.

BTW, anyone want to buy a house conviently located between the dying city
of Dayton and Cincinnati? It's been on the market for over a year.

Kim




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I found this article to be interesting. Finally Ohio is number one in
something. Unfortunately, it is dying cities. I guess outsourcing
manufacturing to China has not been as helpful to the state economy as
promised by the economists and politicians (Republicans & Democrats).


Columbus Dispatch:

backbone of the U.S. is in rougher shape than ever, still searching for
some way to replace its long...

[peter.stockhaus]

It would also explain how my brother-in-law could be out of work for 8
years after working in steel mills over 40. He was running a plant in
Ohio at the end.



Anyone want a slightly used steel exec/engineer?



Pete

[ptc-113113]

It has been hard for Ohio, but were not all dying in Ohio.

[wattyinabq]

If one is out of work for 8 years maybe they need to consider moving to where a job is.

Bill

[schelld]

Or re-training ??

[bbrejcha]

Donald,

Talk about re training... Caterpillar has heired every three week student we
produce... (or at least every one that is willing to move to Peoria)

Bart Brejcha
*DESIGN-ENGINE|**EDUCATION*

[CBenner]

What they don't mention is the collateral damage. If Flint and Detroit are dying it's because of the decline in the auto industry jobs in the US. So what doesn't get mentioned are all of the smaller companies in smaller towns all over lower Michigan which have simply vanished over the last 12 years or so because they were tied in some way to the auto industry. I was out of the design field just over 5 years because of this, cleaning bathrooms at Dow for a while becausethere were no CAD jobs, and anything else I was "overqualified" for. Companies won't hire you if they think you're goint to jump ship as soon as possible... but janitorial firms don't really care. When I finally found a job back in the CAD field, it was for substantially less thanI had been making, and required a ton of retraining for all I'd lost in 5 years. Fortunatley, that retraining included Pro E!

[ptc-124442]

You got that right! I lost my job back in 1989 to outsourcing. Job Works
helped me get my degree in Design but it took me two years to find a job
in that field. That job paid me less to start than what I was making ten
years earlier. I didn't get my break into ProE until 1998. Wow! Love it!
Of course, up until then I only had AutoCAD 3D (AME) to compare it to,
which anyone who modeled with the early AutoCAD 3D can tell you there is
no comparison. Some times it takes time and training before you get
where you aim to go. Hopefully all the workers who had their jobs
outsourced can move on to bigger and better things. Maybe something they
enjoy doing more than auto related work. Funny how the "no job
experience" and "overqualified" can hurt a person. One you can't get the
job because you got no experience because no one will give you a job and
the other you know too much to do their job. Now what's up with that!

[ptc-726111]

Hi,



Some of you have requested a summary. The good news is Ohio has changed some
of its tax policies that discouraged business growth:

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OR Iceland (flat taxes)

[CM15]

I can believe that, as I've seen it. One of many reasons I no longer live there (Cleveland/mistake by the Lake). I hated living there for the 12 miserable years I did.

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