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Find the area of rectangular ABCD. Green line shows half of a circle.

ttokoro
21-Topaz I

Find the area of rectangular ABCD. Green line shows half of a circle.

image.png

Green shows circle of half.

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My solution attached; though, as I only have Prime Express which doesn't have symbolics, I did it "by hand".  

Be nice to see a solution in which Prime does the solving!

 

Alan

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My solution attached; though, as I only have Prime Express which doesn't have symbolics, I did it "by hand".  

Be nice to see a solution in which Prime does the solving!

 

Alan

Werner_E
25-Diamond I
(To:AlanStevens)


@AlanStevens wrote:

My solution attached; though, as I only have Prime Express which doesn't have symbolics, I did it "by hand".  

Be nice to see a solution in which Prime does the solving!

 

Alan


Here you are:

Werner_E_0-1740604937622.png

Unfortunately Primes symbolics does not know that the cosine of an angle from 0 to 90° is always positive.

We have explicitly tell the program that cos(theta)>0 to get the desired solution.

 

A strange effect occurs when we add AB>0 to the assume modifier.

Werner_E_1-1740605323681.png

The result now is a nested(!) matrix. I consider this being a bug in two respects.

Firstly, the second solution does not take into account the constraint r>0 and secondly, if there were two pairs of solutions, these would have to be output in the form of a 2x2 matrix and not in this nested form.

LucMeekes
23-Emerald IV
(To:ttokoro)

Another handwork result.

 

Luc

Werner_E
25-Diamond I
(To:ttokoro)

My approach is similar to Luc's

There is no use for Mathcad's solve capabilities...

 

Werner_E_0-1740582744707.png

 

Puzzle-40.gif

 

Cornel
19-Tanzanite
(To:Werner_E)


@Werner_E wrote:

There is no use for Mathcad's solve capabilities...


I am wondering if there is a such a math software tool that can handle this with a solve capabilities or an automated routine (I think no). I think the only way is as solutions posted already (more with pen and paper)...

Werner_E
25-Diamond I
(To:Cornel)


@Cornel wrote:

@Werner_E wrote:

There is no use for Mathcad's solve capabilities...


I am wondering if there is a such a math software tool that can handle this with a solve capabilities or an automated routine (I think no). I think the only way is as solutions posted already (more with pen and paper)...


Well, I think you would need an AI interface that can read and correctly interpret specification texts and can also extract the relevant information from the attached drawings and then sets up the math accordingly. Challenging ...

SPaulis
14-Alexandrite
(To:Werner_E)

I like the animation.  What app did you use?

Shawn P.
“It’s OK to fall in love with your heart. But, when it comes to making engineering decisions, don’t design with your heart.” – Blodgett, Omer W.
Werner_E
25-Diamond I
(To:SPaulis)


@SPaulis wrote:

I like the animation.  What app did you use?


Mathcad, of course 😉

But 'real' Mathcad (version 15), not Prime. The sheet is attached anyway and could be converted to Prime format (but animations are not yet supported in Prime).

The AVI file created by Mathcad was converted to an animated GIF by one of the many available online converters.

SPaulis
14-Alexandrite
(To:Werner_E)

Well that stinks for me!!!  I guess I can use my MC15 license and set that up, but I've been concentrating on using only Prime for my engineering work.  I suppose that I can always find an external web app that can do it.  Our Prime wish list mist still vey heavy

Shawn P.
“It’s OK to fall in love with your heart. But, when it comes to making engineering decisions, don’t design with your heart.” – Blodgett, Omer W.
SPaulis
14-Alexandrite
(To:ttokoro)

Here is mine.  I also included a plot where the user can vary the angle with a slider.  The proof comes later in the sheet.

 

SPaulis_1-1740589586852.png

 

 

Shawn P.
“It’s OK to fall in love with your heart. But, when it comes to making engineering decisions, don’t design with your heart.” – Blodgett, Omer W.
ttokoro
21-Topaz I
(To:ttokoro)

Thanks all. This is also 12 year's kids puzzle. So without using cos(θ) it is also solved as below.

image.png

It's possible to do it in Prime Express, using the root function to find the angle for the radius.

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