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I am creating this post due to my frustration with the confusion caused by PTC with their naming changes recently.
Creo/Elements Pro 5 = Pro/ENGINEER
Creo = Creo
I see many people are still confused by calling Pro/ENGINEER Wildfire 5, Creo. Pro/ENGINEER Wildfire 5 was renamed Creo/Elements Pro 5. Creo/Elements Pro 5 is not the same as PTC's new CAD suite called Creo. They are two completely different things.
Many people when asking questions about Creo, get responses on Creo/Elements Pro 5 which is like asking someone a question about Lexus vehicle and they give you an answer based on a Toyota.
I also find Youtube videos claiming to show something realted to Creo and when I open the video it's actually Creo/Elements Pro 5 which is NOT Creo.
This is not the end users fault and more PTC's fault for rebranding Pro/ENGINEER as Creo/Elements Pro and not allowing it to retire with any respect for it's original name that it held for 25 years.
Creo/Elements Pro is Pro/ENGINEER Wildfire with a new name. I refuse to call Pro/ENGINEER Wildfire, Creo/Elements Pro.
Creo on the other hand is PTC's new CAD software that is based on the same Kernel as Pro/ENGINEER (Creo/Elements Pro), but it's a completely new software.
This is why Creo started back at Number 1 for it's version.
Creo 1.0 is NOT Creo/Elements Pro 5.
OK.
I feel better now.
I don't blame the end users for the confusion, but just wanted to get this off my chest.
LOL
"Too many people walk around like Clark Kent, because they don't realize they can Fly like Superman"
The big difference here is that PTC changed the name of a 25 year old product before they could retire it. Datsun became Nissan. Pro/ENGINEER became Creo. Nothing wrong with that.
But PTC had Pro/ENGINEER Wildfire 4 and then Pro/ENGINEER Wildfire 5 which was later renamed to Creo/Elments Pro 5.
25 years of Pro/ENGINEER and they could not let it retire with any respect. They changed the name and confused many people on what Creo/Elements Pro is vs. the new Creo platform.
I have no issues with the new Creo name. Just the fact that they changed the 25 year old Pro/ENGINEER to some confusing name mid stream.
A simple name is better moving forward especially for doing Google and Youtube searches. But the confusion they added with rebranding the Pro/ENGINEER software to Creo/Elements Pro is terrible.
When we finally upgraded to Creo 1.0 and I sent an email announcing that it's coming to my end users. I had many of them reply with confusion. They told me that we already changed over to Creo, so what is going on now? Well, they actually got Creo/Elements Pro which is really Pro/ENGINEER Wildfire and though that Creo was a shortened version of the name.
When they opened Creo 1.0, they realized this was a completely new animal and it was not Pro/ENGINEER.
Grrrrrrr.
"Too many people walk around like Clark Kent, because they don't realize they can Fly like Superman"
to avoid confusion just refer to the CAD system as:
Pro/Creo/Fire/Engineer
what name of CAD system do you put on your resume?
i really dig having to search about 8-9 criteria in google to try to find some tips:
*pro/e
*pro\e
*proe
*pro wildfire
*wildfire cad
*pro/engineer
*creo
*creo elements.
*pro/WF
et
etc
funny, Solidworks hasn't changed the name of their CAD system. just think the number behind it corresponds to the year of release...maybe PTC should take notes.
Quiz, what year was WF 3.0 released?
Huh.
Here all along I thought it stood for 'Commence Revenue Extraction Operation'
In Reply to Michael Heath:
Committee on Recently Extinct Organisms.
Ironic ain’t it?
http://creo.amnh.org/
Your Pro/E license should upgrade to Creo Parametric. If you need/want Creo Direct you will need additional licenses. That's my understanding, I'm waiting for Creo 2.0 before trying it.
In Reply to Jeff Dayman:
This brings to mind a sensitive point. I have been told by my VAR that my ProE Foundation licences and ASX surfacing extension licenses are NOT UPGRADEABLE to Creo, even though I have paid maintenance every year like a good (but maybe dumb) boy since my initial ProE license purchase. They tell me if my customers need me to upgrade my systems to Creo I will have to buy all new Creo licences brand new at a cost of several tens of thousands of dollars. Has anyone else had the same experience? Is this truly PTC's approach or just another sales pitch / money grab from my VAR? After being a paying customer of PTC for many years (and many tens of thousands of maintenance dollars paid) I didn't expect to be treated like someone just off the street buying their first license. Maybe I'm just naive. Best regards Jeff Dayman
You need to talk to PTC about this because I think your VAR is confused. Any current PTC software you have is upgradable to the Creo version if you are on Maintenance.
In Reply to Jeff Dayman:
This brings to mind a sensitive point. I have been told by my VAR that my ProE Foundation licences and ASX surfacing extension licenses are NOT UPGRADEABLE to Creo, even though I have paid maintenance every year like a good (but maybe dumb) boy since my initial ProE license purchase. They tell me if my customers need me to upgrade my systems to Creo I will have to buy all new Creo licences brand new at a cost of several tens of thousands of dollars. Has anyone else had the same experience? Is this truly PTC's approach or just another sales pitch / money grab from my VAR? After being a paying customer of PTC for many years (and many tens of thousands of maintenance dollars paid) I didn't expect to be treated like someone just off the street buying their first license. Maybe I'm just naive. Best regards Jeff Dayman
Just for the record. I have no issues with the new Creo name. As in the REAL Creo 1.0
I just wished they would have left Pro/ENGINEER alone and just retired it as Pro/ENGINEER.
I see some are making some funny abbreviations for the word Creo but here is what it really means.
Creo is the Spanish word for "I create", "I believe" or "I Design". Depending on how it's used in a sentance, the word Creo means all 3 things. I think it's a fitting name for a CAD program.
Just saying.
Having one word will make it easy to search on Google and Youtube but that was all killed with the rebranding of Pro/ENGINEER. Another user posted examples on why it was so hard to search for topics or videos related to Pro/ENGINEER and calling the new software Creo moving forward would have made things easier. Now it will remain confusing because you will search for Creo and find Creo/Elments topics which is not what you want.
A missed oppourtunity to make it easy for users to search about your CAD Software PTC. It's too bad that the decision makers did not think this through.
"Too many people walk around like Clark Kent, because they don't realize they can Fly like Superman"
I can't count how many times I had to correct myself and heard other people doing the same, by calling
Creo - PROE. So, I guess the name is: "PROE, sorry Creo"
In Reply to Damian Castillo:
I am creating this post due to my frustration with the confusion caused by PTC with their naming changes recently.
Creo/Elements Pro 5 = Pro/ENGINEER
Creo = Creo
I see many people are still confused by calling Pro/ENGINEER Wildfire 5, Creo. Pro/ENGINEER Wildfire 5 was renamed Creo/Elements Pro 5. Creo/Elements Pro 5 is not the same as PTC's new CAD suite called Creo. They are two completely different things.
Many people when asking questions about Creo, get responses on Creo/Elements Pro 5 which is like asking someone a question about Lexus vehicle and they give you an answer based on a Toyota.
I also find Youtube videos claiming to show something realted to Creo and when I open the video it's actually Creo/Elements Pro 5 which is NOT Creo.
This is not the end users fault and more PTC's fault for rebranding Pro/ENGINEER as Creo/Elements Pro and not allowing it to retire with any respect for it's original name that it held for 25 years.
Creo/Elements Pro is Pro/ENGINEER Wildfire with a new name. I refuse to call Pro/ENGINEER Wildfire, Creo/Elements Pro.
Creo on the other hand is PTC's new CAD software that is based on the same Kernel as Pro/ENGINEER (Creo/Elements Pro), but it's a completely new software.
This is why Creo started back at Number 1 for it's version.
Creo 1.0 is NOT Creo/Elements Pro 5.
OK.
I feel better now.
I don't blame the end users for the confusion, but just wanted to get this off my chest.
LOL
"Too many people walk around like Clark Kent, because they don't realize they can Fly like Superman"