Since this is a frequently asked question, I thought would create a document explaining the best practice for getting the CAD KOP into Windchill. The FTC and FRC CAD KOP's come with their own internal folder structures. This is something you can mimic in Windchill or create your own folder structure. Also, putting ALL the CAD KOP files into Windchill is not a prerequisite, since in many cases you may not use them all. Lots of teams leave them on the local machine and check them into Windchill as they are incorporated into the design.
Lets start with some ground rules to make sure their are no misconceptions.
To get started, you'll need the CAD KOP files from PTC which can be downloaded from www.ptc.com/go/firstkop. Choose the FTC or FRC kit you are interested in, download the ZIP file and unzip it somewhere on your computer.
If the files are located in multiple folders and you want to import everything, here's a quick tip to get all the files into one folder to make importing much easier.
Now that you've got all your files together, we can move to Creo and import them.
I am trying to help my local FIRST team use Windchill and Creo more effectively. We're doing reasonably well on the CAD, but Windchill has posed huge stumbling blocks. This document is great, and I wish I had seen before I started figuring it out by trial and error. I do have a question. Is there any way to import the CAD files and preserve their directory structure?
We've been parallel tracking the design effort while we figure things out, so we have an extensive design outside of Windchill, and I'm uploaing a fairly large assebmly with many subassemblies. I have the files reasonably well organized on my local machine, but when I save the assembly to the Windchill server, everything is in one folder and it's very hard to find the major assemblies amongst all the fasteners etc.
I'm really not looking forward to uploading the parts folder by folder, or to re-sorting everything once it's on the server, so I hope there's a way to move my folders as a set.
The only way CAD can be uploaded to Windchill is via Creo and the Windchill Workspace. This requires you to open or import your files and then assign a project folder to locate it in Windchill. There is no way to read your folder structure and replicate that same strucutre in Windchill. Unfortunately, you will have to assign folders to new objects or simply Cut/Paste them to the desired folders once you have them uploaded to your Windchill project.
I did not show a screen shot of the proces in the document, but it is very easy to assign a folder to one ore more CAD files during import. You can even setup a default folder location for new objects on the last tab of the properties page for the Workspace.
I have a couple of suggestions that might help reduce the work.
1. We tend to worry about folder structure less in Windchill and use sorting more to locate files we need. Sometimes it's easiest to sort by date since we're often interested in the most recently used files. We also sort by assemblies much of the time.
2. We use "Thumbnails" in commonspace oten. By hovering over the thumbnail, it offers a picture of the part and if we click on the thumbnail, we can see where the part/assembly is used and what it's used on.
3. Use the sorting in the Creo File Open window by assembly, part or drawing. Also activate the "preview" window.
4. In the file open dialog in Creo, if you know the first few digites of the file name you are looking for, you can type them and * and it will show only those files in the menu, such as was* if I'm trying to find washer.prt or washer_6-32.prt.
Hope that helps,
Great points Josh. I completely forgot we added the pre-configured views for CAD Parts, CAD Assemblies and CAD Drawings making sorting, filtering and model identification quick and easy.
Depending on the number of CAD users in your Windchill project, sometimes its easier to segregate data by user and other times its easier to segregate by project. In either case, I would not create very deep folder structures in your project. That will ultimately make it more difficult to find your CAD files.
For instance, when working on the file system, I often create a folder named Assemblies and another one named Parts, put the corresponding files in each folder and configure a "search_path" entry in my config.pro file to make sure Creo can find all the files. This makes data management really easy, but it's on ME to manage it all.
When working in Windchill, I typically put all the files into a single folder and use the Views to show me the information I am most interested in. This model works the same way in the project's folder browser as it is in the Workspace letting Windchill do the data management for you.
I think there is something off in the phrasing of Rule 1. The import steps don't open or save any files in Creo - the directions are to open Creo and use the integrated browser in Creo to manage the upload.
Once a connection is made between Creo and a workspace, all saved files will go to the workspace and can be uploaded from there. I think there are options to automatically save and upload.
What intial users most often miss is the need to Check In files from the workspace so that other team members can see and use them.
Correct. During this process, you never have to open any of the files into Creo Parametric. You just need to import them into your project workspace, assign a project folder to them and check them into your project.
This How-To is only focused on adding the contents of the KOP ZIP to your Windchill project. It is not intended to suggest ways of using Creo and Windchill other than bulk loading many CAD files from disk.
Steps 12 and 13 identify the check in and folder assignment steps.
Happy to make updates if you have any additional feedback.
I'm having some trouble with this procedure. I got as far as the "tools"-"import to workspace"-"select all" step, and it chugged away for a while. However, when it was done, there were no files listed, and if I click next, I get a message that no objects are selected. (This is step 10 above - there are no objects in the table). Opening and closing the object list seemed to populate the table at least some of the time, but when I selected them all and clicked on "next" again it brought up the same dialogue box, and an empty object list (although it acknowledges having 271 objects.. See screen shot below) I cannot get past this point. I presume I left off some critical step, but I can't seem to figure out what it is.
On a possibly related issue, I want to delete the content of an entire folder in Windchill - we had to temporarily suspend use due to compatibilty issues. I get a "resolvable conflict" error m message because some are still checked out, and when I accept the action and try again it seems to work, but when I refresh the view of the folder the files all seem to be there. Any suggestions on how to clean out the folder?
When you get the message about checked out objects, be sure to make sure the "fix" action is to perform an Undo Checkout on the effected items. If still having issues with it, check the status of the items in the folder and perform an Undo Checkout there first. You'll get a similar message if others have these items in their workspace and be prompted to remove them from their workspaces.
Finally managed to get back to it and try again. Nothing is checked out, but some things are in a workspace belonging to a student. The resolution offered is "remove from workspace and delete", but it doesn't work. As it happens, it's one of our most dedicated students but what would happen if it were a student who had left the team, or is unavailable for some reason? Is there a way to assign someone (coach/mentor) higher level priviledges so we can force a delete?