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10-02-2019
07:35 AM

10-02-2019
07:35 AM

Mathcad Prime 6.0 Symbolic Engine, based on Axiom/Fricas

So Mathcad Prime 6 has a new symbolic engine.

There's no indication within the product what the symbolic engine is. However, if you poke around in the installation directory, there's a new folder called Axiom with an executable for the computer algebra system called FriCAS somwhere inside.

So I guess the new symbolic engine is based on this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FriCAS

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axiom_(computer_algebra_system)

[edited to include reference to FRICAS]

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10-02-2019
08:54 AM

10-02-2019
08:54 AM

Re: Mathcad Prime 6.0 Symbolic Engine, based on Axiom/Fricas

Looking at the links provided, it looks like Axiom could be a competitor rather than a supplement to Prime.

"It features 'HyperDoc', an interactive browser-like help system, and can display two and three dimensional graphics, also providing interactive features like rotation and lighting."

The displayed 3D surface plot would put Prime to shame!

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10-03-2019
10:39 AM

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10:39 AM

Re: Mathcad Prime 6.0 Symbolic Engine, based on Axiom/Fricas

can anyone test this in 6.0?

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10-03-2019
01:50 PM

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01:50 PM

Re: Mathcad Prime 6.0 Symbolic Engine, based on Axiom/Fricas

Please find below.

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10-03-2019
01:58 PM

10-03-2019
01:58 PM

Re: Mathcad Prime 6.0 Symbolic Engine, based on Axiom/Fricas

Wow, the result looks like it's giving us is the "Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything", ...42. It must be correct!

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10-04-2019
02:24 AM

10-04-2019
02:24 AM

Re: Mathcad Prime 6.0 Symbolic Engine, based on Axiom/Fricas

thanks,

and this?

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10-04-2019
02:48 AM

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02:48 AM

Re: Mathcad Prime 6.0 Symbolic Engine, based on Axiom/Fricas

as below...

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10-04-2019
04:11 AM

10-04-2019
04:11 AM

Re: Mathcad Prime 6.0 Symbolic Engine, based on Axiom/Fricas

Ver.6 Bug, Ver. 5 is OK.

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10-04-2019
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04:14 AM

Re: Mathcad Prime 6.0 Symbolic Engine, based on Axiom/Fricas

Ver.6 Bug, Ver. 5 is OK

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10-03-2019
02:10 PM

10-03-2019
02:10 PM

Re: Mathcad Prime 6.0 Symbolic Engine, based on Axiom/Fricas

Here is my first test of the new symbolic engine.

As you can see neither the old nor the new engine come up with the result 1/(n+1) but the result of the new engine sure is nonsense (a further evaluation yields a wrong 0, of course).

Also Wolfram Alpha is not able to come up with the result 1/(n+1) but at least points to the general harmonics.

@LucMeekes What about Maple in MC11. Is it able to come up with the simple result?

The limit of course can be seen as Riemann sum of a simple integral. The way the new engine shows the result is not promising, too 😞

BTW, have you all already noticed that we can copy and paste pics directly in our posts now w/o having to save as files?

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10-03-2019
04:14 PM

10-03-2019
04:14 PM

Re: Mathcad Prime 6.0 Symbolic Engine, based on Axiom/Fricas

Mathcad 11/Maple:

😞

(No need to take a screenshot either, this was just a copy of 4 regions)

Luc

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10-03-2019
05:55 PM

10-03-2019
05:55 PM

Re: Mathcad Prime 6.0 Symbolic Engine, based on Axiom/Fricas

Thanks for trying.

Interesting that this little beast is causing the programs so much trouble.

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10-03-2019
04:37 PM

10-03-2019
04:37 PM

Re: Mathcad Prime 6.0 Symbolic Engine, based on Axiom/Fricas

thanks for stating what the new symbolic engine is based on. i was curious about that.

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10-03-2019
05:58 PM

10-03-2019
05:58 PM

Re: Mathcad Prime 6.0 Symbolic Engine, based on Axiom/Fricas

@prop_design wrote:

thanks for stating what the new symbolic engine is based on. i was curious about that.

It was not me but mvenich who pointed out that the new symbolics may be based on FriCAS (a forge of Axiom). So the honor is due him.

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10-03-2019
06:40 PM

10-03-2019
06:40 PM

Re: Mathcad Prime 6.0 Symbolic Engine, based on Axiom/Fricas

thanks for determining what the new symbolic solver was based on. i was curious about this. i never thought licensing tech from a competitor made any sense.

anthony