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Mathcad Prime 6.0 is out!

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Re: Mathcad Prime 6.0 is out!

Hi Stuart,

a "welcome back" from me, too!

You may want to keep your MC14 license and let PTC support generate a license file for the machine you are currently using. Reason is that PTC does not sell perpetual licenses any more and so you will be forced to pay them year after year for having access to your IP.
Development of MC15 has stopped quite some time ago and you can only expect adoptions to OS changes and development of Prime is still glacially slow.

As Luc already wrote you may  want to test drive Prime 6 and Mathcad 15 to see if they, compared to your MC14, justify the annual fee asked for.

 

Re: Mathcad Prime 6.0 is out!

Thanks, Luc.  I'm keeping that option on hold at the moment.   I'm quite busy with some other projects and may delay getting Prime 6 for a few weeks, just so I've time devote to the programming  side (and other advanced features).

Re: Mathcad Prime 6.0 is out!

Hi Werner,  I'll see what can be done, but apparently even my Prime 1 licence isn't' on the system (even though I can see it on my licence listing). 

 

I'm in the middle of setting up a new (for values of 'new')  iMac and MacBook, plus deciding which of two Lenovo Thinkpads I want to use as my main W10 laptop.   Once I've got the hardware sorted, I'll be in a better position to get restarted on installing Mathcad.

 

Cheers,

 

Stuart

Re: Mathcad Prime 6.0 is out!

[quote="t s lewis" ]I’d actually like a useful forum instead of the constant bitching about how a 15 year old program is better. How much are you guys getting paid to constantly slag it off? Anyway each to their own. Some Engineers are a fickle old bunch unable to move with the times, stick with a 32 bit program leagacied to an old OS. I also have every reason to prefer the newer version without being accused of being some kind of ad for pro, it’s kinda bring constantly hearing about “real version of mathcad”. Go and use another piece of software if you can’t contribute to anything that is going to add the conversation[/quote]

 

Might I ask how long you've been a Mathcad/Prime User?

 

If you read through the history of this forum and its predecessors, you might not be so quite so quick to dismiss the opinions of those who have used the software for several decades.  I can assure you it's not us who have been unable to move with the times.  You may also find that some of the contributors you seem to be complaining about have contributed a good deal to the community, irrespective of Mathcad/Prime version - certainly far more than your ill-informed disapprobation does.

Re: Mathcad Prime 6.0 is out!

"Some Engineers are a fickle old bunch unable to move with the times, stick with a 32 bit program leagacied to an old OS"

 

You know, it doesn't matter whether a program is 32 bit "leagacied" to an old OS as long as it delivers. Mathcad 15 does patently so whereas mathcad prime is lacking.

 

Raiko

Re: Mathcad Prime 6.0 is out!


@tslewis wrote:
I’d actually like a useful forum instead of the constant bitching about how a 15 year old program is better. How much are you guys getting paid to constantly slag it off? Anyway each to their own. Some Engineers are a fickle old bunch unable to move with the times, stick with a 32 bit program leagacied to an old OS. I also have every reason to prefer the newer version without being accused of being some kind of ad for pro, it’s kinda bring constantly hearing about “real version of mathcad”. Go and use another piece of software if you can’t contribute to anything that is going to add the conversation

Cheers


Please correct me if I am wrong but as far as I remember you never ever had contributed anything helpful or valuable to any thread here in the forum - this in contrary to many other contributors here.

It looks like you are not getting the point and as I can't believe that you are not able to get it I must conclude that you are not willing to do. Therefore, the counter question has to be: how much do they pay you, so you play the one and only  unwavering and unconstrained fan of Prime with no ifs and buts.

But as you had put it - to each his own. If you like using a "modern" software which is so easily beaten by an 15 year old piece of software in so many respects, just do it. But if you claim that software being better just because its newer, then users who know better must hold against it and can not keep silent.

 


I also have every reason to prefer the newer version without being accused of being some kind of ad for pro, it’s kinda bring constantly hearing about “real version of mathcad”.

You may have your reasons to prefer Prime and I sure can respect that fact. But as it seems you are not able or willing to accept any different well-founded opinion by others, but rather call 'em a "a fickle old bunch unable to move with the times". Really think that adds to the discussion? 'nough said!

Re: Mathcad Prime 6.0 is out!

I'd like to negotiate a truce. Perhaps we can just agree that all versions have significant flaws and shortcomings.  It's a useful system burdened with questionable execution, insufficient development and atrocious marketing.  And it's amazing a competitor hasn't swooped in to provide a better product at a more reasonable cost.  

Re: Mathcad Prime 6.0 is out!

"It's a useful system burdened with questionable execution, insufficient development and atrocious marketing."

 

And inadequate capability specifications.

 

But apart from that,  ... 😎

 

"And it's amazing a competitor hasn't swooped in to provide a better product at a more reasonable cost."

 

There are several competitors who meet that criteria; my 'hobbyist' Mathematica licence is substantially less, and for a far more capable engineering / mathematical tool.   

 

In addition, there seemed to be some cultural changes appearing in the PTC that didn't necessarily reflect an understanding of the wider use of Mathcad/Prime.  For example, the move in Prime to a more page-oriented environment and a 'programmer' outlook, rather than a mathematical viewpoint, were unwelcome changes.

 

An example of the latter is the implementation of piecewise functions.   When I want to write one down, I use the standard (ISO 80000, I think) curly brace notation

 

piecewise example 01.png

https://www.openmath.org/cd/piece1.html#otherwise

 

but, it would still appear, the Prime solution to inputting and displaying this is a series of nested if functions or a short program. if(x < 0, -x, if(x, x, 0)) or similar.    Even in such a simple case, the standard layout looks easier to interpret, and in more complex cases,  there is almost no competition between the two.   

 

I have difficulty in seeing what the implementation difficulties are: insert piecewise operator with 1 or 2 blank place holders, user types constraints and uses some simply keyboard/mouse combination to move to and/or create a new place holder.   Prime interprets it all under the hood and redraws accordingly.  It should be straight forward, given that most of the capability seems to be built-in.   It's also been on the new feature list for about a decade.  

 

A few of the longer-standing members of this Community may recall that the words "multi" "dimensional" and "array" were likely to set off the foaming-at-the-mouth rottweiler in me. 😈 

 

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However, I always found my self turning to Mathcad when I wanted to put down, explore and clarify my ideas - I'm so used to the 2D "Engineering Whiteboard" that it makes such things far easier.   I'm hoping it still will, but it gets frustrating at times.

 

I'm all in favour of a Cease Fire but negotiations for a permanent peace may get a little noisy at times as odd border incidents break out accompanied by shouts of Fire For Effect.