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When does a vector stop being a vector?

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gwestbrook
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When does a vector stop being a vector?

I'm a MathCAD new user and am confused by what I'm seeing.  In the attached example, I've created a range variable and used it in a calculation.  The result, B, is shown and is apparently NOT a vector.

To the right, I've done the same thing except that the range variable on goes from 0 to 8.  In this case the result, D, IS a vector.  If I change the value of j to 9, the result changes in appearance and is no longer a vector.

I don't understand what's going on here which is, naturally, impairing my ability to solve a real problem.  I seem to be confused as to what constitutes a vector.

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Re: When does a vector stop being a vector?

Both, B and D, are proper vectors.

What confuses you is the optical representation.

Every vector can be shown in one of two ways - matrix style (like your D) or table style (like your B).

By default Mathcad uses automatic display, which means that vectors up to 9 elements are shown in matrix display and vectors with more elements are shown table style (so you can size the region and be able to scroll).

Double click the RHS of B= (or use Format Result), activate tab "Display Options" and change "Matrix Display Style" from "Automatic" to "Matrix" to get the view you were expecting. You will see immediately, why Mathcad had chosen Matrix style, as a vector with 105 elements is not that easy to handle when showing all elements in one view.

In table view you can resize, the region, right click and chose properties to change the font size and decide, whether you want row and column headers or not.

LT

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Re: When does a vector stop being a vector?

What version of Mathcad are you using because both A and B are vectors when I open the worksheet.

Re: When does a vector stop being a vector?

If you are struggling with the differences between ranges, range variables and vectors have a look here.

Understanding Ranges, Sequences, & Vectors

Re: When does a vector stop being a vector?

Thanks!  My n00b problem is indeed understanding how to use these concepts.

Re: When does a vector stop being a vector?

Both, B and D, are proper vectors.

What confuses you is the optical representation.

Every vector can be shown in one of two ways - matrix style (like your D) or table style (like your B).

By default Mathcad uses automatic display, which means that vectors up to 9 elements are shown in matrix display and vectors with more elements are shown table style (so you can size the region and be able to scroll).

Double click the RHS of B= (or use Format Result), activate tab "Display Options" and change "Matrix Display Style" from "Automatic" to "Matrix" to get the view you were expecting. You will see immediately, why Mathcad had chosen Matrix style, as a vector with 105 elements is not that easy to handle when showing all elements in one view.

In table view you can resize, the region, right click and chose properties to change the font size and decide, whether you want row and column headers or not.

LT

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Re: When does a vector stop being a vector?

I think , from what you have said that the issue is how the data is displayed.

As has been said , both are vectors , its just that one is displayed as a vector (matrix) and the other as table.

Mathcad automatically chooses the format that it uses to display, but if you want to select a format:

First select the area you want to modify, then (when highlighted) click the format option on the top menu-bar and then result. This will bring up a pop-up box, pick the Display options tab and there you will find the "Matrix display style" - it defaults to Automatic , but you can force it to Table or Matrix.

Unfortunately, You do have to repeat this for each existing instance.

If you copy & paste a region it should 'remember' the setting.

Regards

Andy

Re: When does a vector stop being a vector?

A Westerman wrote:

....This will bring up a pop-up box, pick the Display options tab and there you will find the "Matrix display style" - it defaults to Automatic , but you can force it to Table or Matrix.

Unfortunately, You do have to repeat this for each existing instance.

If you copy & paste a region it should 'remember' the setting.

Not quite true.  It is if you want to vary every instance, but if you want to change it globally, then all you have to do is click in a blank area of the worksheet and change the format (including any other display options) to how you want it.   I've got my Normal template set to Matrix and Expand Nested, plus General format Exponential Threshold = 7, as these values suit my needs better overall.

Stuart

Re: When does a vector stop being a vector?

Greg Westbrook wrote:

I'm a MathCAD new user and am confused by what I'm seeing.  In the attached example, I've created a range variable and used it in a calculation.  The result, B, is shown and is apparently NOT a vector.

To the right, I've done the same thing except that the range variable on goes from 0 to 8.  In this case the result, D, IS a vector.  If I change the value of j to 9, the result changes in appearance and is no longer a vector.

I don't understand what's going on here which is, naturally, impairing my ability to solve a real problem.  I seem to be confused as to what constitutes a vector.

B  hasn't stopped being a vector, it's just that way Mathcad displays is has changed because of the size of B.  If an array has 10 or more rows or columns then, by default, Mathcad displays an array in "Table" form (which you see for B) rather than "Matrix" form (which you see for D).   It does this so as not to consume vast amounts of display with large arrays that stretch over several pages.

However, you can see more elements of the array by one of two means.

The first (or rather, first two) use the Table format.  If you click on the result of displaying B, you should see a slider bar.  Simply drag the slider bar up or down to see the values of interest to you.   Alternatively, you can see more elements by clicking on the black markers at the top or bottom of the display and dragging them up or down; this will expand the Table.

The second (or should it now be third) method is to change to Matrix format.  Double-click on the result (or choose Format/Result from the Main Menu) and then click on the Display Options tab in the resulting dialog box.  In the Matrix Display Style dropdown, choose Matrix.   If you do want to display large vectors in Matrix format, it's often better to show the transpose as taking up horizontal space is usually less of an issue than using vertical space!

Stuart

Re: When does a vector stop being a vector?

Thanks all.

I understand what's going on with the display of vectors.  Now on to my real problems.  But that should be another discussion.

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