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Brief Introduction and Some Questions About CoCreate PE 3.0

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Brief Introduction and Some Questions About CoCreate PE 3.0

Hello,

 

I'm new to the Creo "family," so I'll briefly introduce myself as Dr. R.D. Charbonneau A.Ph.D., Q.N.R.A. and go from there. I'm an astrophysicist and an independent researcher who started as a BScME (Mechanical Engineer) and am the original discoverer of the Tachocline in our star (Sol; the Sun) and hold the theory that all stars are basically like this. I have currently generated a model of Sol that spells some serious problems possibly in October this year (temperatures may be in excess of 150 deg F in the Northern Hemisphere for a few weeks.), but I have some concepts for preparing for this I want to express to humanity. I need some good CAD Modeling tools for this and that's why I'm here.

 

My questions:

 

1. If I'm using the CoCreate PE 3.0 as of a few minutes ago, but want to upgrade to a version that will handle more than 60 parts, what will this cost?

 

2. Does the PTC Company have any type of pay-as-u-go plan that will allow someone to make payments via debit card once each month?

 

3. The main reason I am choosing this over ProgeCAD is CoCreate has more ability to create and manipulate solids, i.e. HELICES. Is it possible to create a helix that follows a curved path? By this I mean a coil that is wrapped similar to a Moebus Magnet. If not would it be possible to create a single revolution of the coil then copy it multiple times along a curve and union the entire group into a single entity?

 

4. If I want to use the PE version for a bit and create models with essentially more parts, can I take a group of 10 parts, per se, and union then into a single part, then break them down again for drawing plans?

 

 

Thank you,

 

Dr. C.

 

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Re: Brief Introduction and Some Questions About CoCreate PE 3.0

Yes, the PE can do the same sizes like the Pro version.

But the PE does not allow any textures. That is part of the rendering module which only is available in the Pro edition.

The PE can do all the technical drawings in the module Annotation (press the 2D button) like the full version.

You can make assembly drawings of the whole podule, you can make assembly drawings of the detailed interieur and you can make drawings of every single part including the dimensions, tolerances and other text. You can draw sections in every direction of assemblies or single parts and you can display isometric views, etc etc (all things of an full CAD can be done in PE Annotation).

But with PE you can not export the 2D drawings as pdf or dxf, only print or plot them. The payed version certainly can export many 2D and 3D formats.

Best wishes !

Matthias

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Re: Brief Introduction and Some Questions About CoCreate PE 3.0

1. and 2. You can ask the costs and payment conditions at an official reseller or CoCreate partner: http://www.ptc.com/partners/index.htm

3. All functions of the full version are included in the PE version. So you can test the helical problem there.

I can not follow your exercise exactly, it could be worth to explain it a bit more special.

4. Yes, several parts can be united to one part. But it is not easy to separate them again, because they are melted to one volume and the system does not know what they were before. In PE you can not save more than 60 parts, but you can load several files together in one session.

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Picture of Helix:

http://osd.cad.de/bilder/helix.gif

Best regards !

Matthias

Re: Brief Introduction and Some Questions About CoCreate PE 3.0

Thank you, Highway45. You did answer the question about the helix. That is exactly what I was referring to.

The question still exists regarding how many parts is "Pro" restricted to, or is it the same as PE 3.0?dodepod5.jpgThis was done on an older machine using Cybermotion 6. This is the type of rendering I'm wanting to make. As my launch post implies, it is possible we are running out of time a bit. I emphasize possibly. I want to have a complete set of plans for similar flood / quake / fire resistant pod habitats like this. The one in focus is for a 150 meter diameter structure that will serve for enclosed farms, hospitals, factories, community habitats, etc.

If I want to make this type of rendering am I barking up the right tree? If it will not do the scenery, I already have tried successfully to export an STL to Blender. The megalithic architectural structures will likely need a lot of parts in the drawings.

I'll continue working through the tutorials and check back here to see what the community thinks.

Thanks again.

Dr. C.

Re: Brief Introduction and Some Questions About CoCreate PE 3.0

The "Pro" version does certainly not have any restrictions in number of parts.

You can put as many parts and assemblies in one file.

The only restriction I know is about the size of the models, they can not be greater than 700 meter.

Not in PE, but the "Pro" version offers you a quite good rendering module to create pictures similar to yours.

But this is not very professional and I believe you will be disappointed after some time, specially making pics with water or underwater situations.

So I can not suggest this to you (even without knowing your requirements).

Software like Blender or Cinema4D etc are giving you much more possibilities in making great pictures.

The common way is to create the 3D-model in CAD-software and then transfer it to the rendering software.

Hope to see some other people's opinions here in this thread.

Matthias

Re: Brief Introduction and Some Questions About CoCreate PE 3.0

Good Morning,

Thank you, Highway45.

That raises another question. Is PE allowed to make models as large as 700 meters? I don't forsee designing a pod that large unless someone wants one and in that case I could go to another program. It's always good to have more than one option.

podule41.jpgAs this pic shows the superrstructure is made of pine for added buoyancy. Will PE allow for textures like this? For construction type conceptual illustrations texture is really not necessary. This was also done in Cybermotion, but that program has no ability to create plans and detail drawings. Can PE do the detail drawings for someone to actually build one of these things?

Dr. C.

Re: Brief Introduction and Some Questions About CoCreate PE 3.0

Yes, the PE can do the same sizes like the Pro version.

But the PE does not allow any textures. That is part of the rendering module which only is available in the Pro edition.

The PE can do all the technical drawings in the module Annotation (press the 2D button) like the full version.

You can make assembly drawings of the whole podule, you can make assembly drawings of the detailed interieur and you can make drawings of every single part including the dimensions, tolerances and other text. You can draw sections in every direction of assemblies or single parts and you can display isometric views, etc etc (all things of an full CAD can be done in PE Annotation).

But with PE you can not export the 2D drawings as pdf or dxf, only print or plot them. The payed version certainly can export many 2D and 3D formats.

Best wishes !

Matthias

Re: Brief Introduction and Some Questions About CoCreate PE 3.0

Thank you again, Highway45.

It sounds as though I should at least continue learning PE and wait until a reseller contacts me.

Am I correct that the 3D work will also not export in perhaps an STL or DXF?

Will I be able to save the final renderings as JPG's or BMP's?

Dr. C.

Re: Brief Introduction and Some Questions About CoCreate PE 3.0

3D can only be exported as STL from PE.

In full version there are many export possibilities, for example STEP, SAT, IGES, etc

2D can not be exported from PE.

In full version there are some export possibilities, for example DXF, DWG, PDF, etc

The rendering pictures can be saved in every known image file type.

Re: Brief Introduction and Some Questions About CoCreate PE 3.0

Hello Highway45,

That's a viable output.

a couple more questions then it might be a good idea to direct the work issues to the right board. I did some AutoLISP routines in the past and the progeCAD can possibly do the XYZ math to achieve a reasonably high definition helix using LISP routines, then it outputs in several formats. There may be some LISP's out there that can improve performance. That leads to the next question:

What does PE read? and Is there a programming language that acompanies it?

Is there a specific language favorable to add-ons?

Those answered we could likely click on that "correct answer" that shows up in the corner (LOL) and I'll explore the forums some more for ideas. I'm certain I'll use the program for a lot of graphic work. I feel it would be best to concentrate most of my time though on the program that has the closest 3D environment to what I'm most familiar with (AutoCAD AME) and work on the bells and whistles in the backgound. If i'm working at conveying a workable structural solution to flood and other natural hazards, the true first step is have a viable set of dimensions for every vector and curve, next come the exploded views. That in PE's repertoire is excellent, as you pointed out. If you can suggest some forums, that would be a good thing.

Thanx

Dr. C.

Re: Brief Introduction and Some Questions About CoCreate PE 3.0

In CoCreate-Modeling the code language is Common-Lisp.

The best page to learn something about it is here:

http://www.clausbrod.de/ (german and english spoken).

Some examples of Lisp-Tools and 3D models for CoCreate you can find here:

http://osd.cad.de/ (german with some english contents).

http://osd.cad.de - google - translated

I believe the best other forum for you could be the international user group:

http://cocreateusers.org/ (english spoken).

Have fun !

Matthias