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Plagarism

Plagarism

Run an audit trail for each model via the Info menu.

Do either of the samples have the other person's user ID or computer
name stamped in it's audit trail?


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Dustin Neifer
General Dynamics Land Systems








"sean kerslake" <->
03/19/2008 10:30 AM
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I have two students who are denying my accusation of plagarism.Whats the
likelyhood of two people given the part to model would build a model
independently and produce a modeltree with this level of
similarity?Attached image or here:



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Plagarism

Check under the "INFO" pull down menu and then select "Audit Trail"

That command tells you on what PC the model was saved and by whom.



Best Regards,



Ronnie A Shand
Mechanical Engineer &

Bachelor of Science in Criminal Justice


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Plagarism

I'd call them plagiarists and lazy...

For Pete's sake, couldn't even take the time to re-arrange the family
tree some...

Nail them to the cross.




Erik Peterson P.E.

Sr. Product Engineer

Plagarism

Another possibility is open each part & do Info > Audit Trail.



If plagiarism has occurred, likely the copy will have 2 users listed, the
original will only have 1 (the exception is that if they used the same login
on the same computer, the audit trail will not be useful).



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Plagarism

Oh sure, if you want to take the scientific approach and actually try it.
I prefer to guess, and then spout off without knowing the facts.



Bob Frindt
Sr. Designer
Parker Hannifin Corporation
Parker Aerospace
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9200 Tyler Boulevard
Mentor, OH 44060 USA
direct (440) 954-8159

Plagarism

I'm certainly no expert but I would be skeptical as well.
Next time, require trail files to be submitted as well.

Regards,
Scott


Plagarism

Ronnie,

One could save a copy, rename the features and then save it again. In this
case it looks like that is what they did. Under the Audit Trail, it would
be whom ever saved it, so thier parts would have two different names.





Lance Lie
Sr. Tech. Support Eng. II
310.952.4347
310-952.4452 fax
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"Shand, Ronnie (N-DCR Inc)" <->
03/19/2008 08:13 AM
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Check under the “INFO” pull down menu and then select “Audit Trail”
That command tells you on what PC the model was saved and by whom.

Best Regards,

Ronnie A Shand
Mechanical Engineer &
Bachelor of Science in Criminal Justice

Note: It’s plagiarism, not plagarism

Plagarism

There is a very small chance the model tree order would end up looking
that similar. Even more damning is that the feature IDs are exactly the
same, that is nearly an impossibility. Using the Info > Audit Trail
function should also tell the tale unless your class uses generic
usernames.



Best Regards,

Plagiarism

My guess is more they copied from each other, IE CHEATING .. not
Plagiarizing .. but Like Jeff said.. the audit trail doesn't lie..
if they both took it from another source, IE Plagiarism.. downloaded it
off the internet
.. you will be able to see who has touched the model Smiley Happy






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03/19/2008 10:19 AM
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Info -> Audit Trail should give you the information as to who worked the
model

Jeff Zemsky

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Plagiarism

Trail file doesn't always indicate a copy.

You can use an empty start part, create the default datum's and cys, and
start copying features from a full model to the new part file. Of course the
model tree would be the same unless features were removed or suppressed. I
have a co-worker that routinely copies features from other parts because he
just doesn't want to learn how to model those features and gets to0
frustrated trying to do it himself. When he is finished he then tells others
that HE created the part and thought up the design. Pisses me off.