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Where did the "Axis Point" go?

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Re: Where did the "Axis Point" go?

To clarify: Creo Parametric 1.0, M030

In sketcher, there are two icons for points (geometry & construction) in the ribbon. Neither has a fly-out menu.

I can toggle between construction & geometry, but neither shows up outside of the sketch (with all layers shown).

I've check the Creo 1.0 config.pro options list from PTC, and searched for "axis", and for "point" in the config.pro editor.

no love. is there a hidden config option?

two reasons for wanting the axis point:

-it makes life easy for the drafter (showing slot ctr)

-it makes it easy to assemble a bolt in the middle of a slot

Re: Where did the "Axis Point" go?

Oh so it's possible to sketch a circle and get a datum point in the center of its extrude automatically?

And if so how can I do that please?

EDIT: I know about the datum axis from sketched point option and about that theres config.pro option for that one but datum point?

Re: Where did the "Axis Point" go?

hi, for datum axes its show_axes_for_extr_arcs option

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Re: Where did the "Axis Point" go?

Axis Point only exist extrude feature. (or similar feature ex.slot)

in extrude sketch:

WF5.0(Creo 1.0)+: "Geometry Point" = WF4.0-:"Axis Point"

WF5.0(Creo 1.0)+: "Construction Point" = WF4.0-:"Point"

Re: Where did the "Axis Point" go?

WAIT!!

The Axis Point feature is not gone, it's simply been moved under Geometry Point. But, remember you can't drop a geometry point in a standalone sketch. You can only do it in the internal sketch of an extrude feature. This has always been the case. In my opinion, this is one fantastic reason never to use external sketches.

The show_axes_for_extr_arcs option works... but I find it quite annoying. I like having the control to place an axis point where I need it... rather than having an axis created for me through every extruded arc. Check out the slide below. Click the graphic for a larger, more readable view.

axis_point.png

Thanks!

-Brian

Re: Where did the "Axis Point" go?

I feel your pain John...

Many of us have had similar experiences. This is one reason why we've opted to develop some of our own classes for internal training and have our own personnel teach the classes. For update training from Wildfire 5 to Creo Parametric 1.0, we'll be using our own materials and instructors. This gives us the ability to tailor our materials to the specific needs of our people and use instructors intimately familiar with our business processes and configurations.

Thanks!

-Brian

Re: Where did the "Axis Point" go?

This is relevant from my other thread:

http://communities.ptc.com/message/181326

I had "Geometry Points" I made in a datum curve, and I wanted to rename the points individually, not the sketch, and it took me hours to find the way to do it, whereas I had a simple mapkey before and i cold pick "Other" and rename anything I wanted.

If you're in a top assembly, and ANY feature or buried feature you want to rename is in a part or lower-level assembly, you must either OPEN that assembly and do it there, or ACTIVATE the part or lower-level assembly where the feature resides. So, you have to do all this, AND scroll thru 2 separate menus containing ALL the many features in a part (some of mine have had 1,400+ features!) to get to a simple rename, instead of just doing it?!?!?! Wow. Can't wait to be done with these changes so I can go back on WF4.

Re: Where did the "Axis Point" go?

Okay now see THAT comment was truly, truly helpful.

This is something we should report up to the developers. You've highlighted a relatively simple problem that makes everyday work harder than it needs to be. We should add this as an "Idea" and vote on it.

I know. I can hear you saying "Why do we need to write an idea that effectively says 'put it back the way it was'?" But I think that's the best procedure to get the issue in front of the community and get it voted up the chain.

Thanks!

-Brian

Re: Where did the "Axis Point" go?

I'd say that PTC doesn't ever find my comments helpful, but if I can help some users avoid my pain, I'm happy.

This was entirely WAY more work than it needs to be. Like I said, some of my old models had over 1,400+ features! So, I'm supposed to scroll thru that list to find what I USED to be able so simply pick on? Gah!

Re: Where did the "Axis Point" go?

Why don't you just... use the Find Tool?


I'm TOTALLY kidding with you. I hate when people say "Well, why don't you just..." and then they insert some simplistic solution to a complex problem. Drives me nuts. Just wanted to hep drive you insane before the weekend!