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EXT : ProE Wildfire and Solid State Hard Drives

bgruman
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EXT : ProE Wildfire and Solid State Hard Drives

PTC-Users, I apologize for the late reply. I has been crazy busy around
the office over the last couple of weeks. (Good problem to have... I'm not
complaining... 🙂

As promised, Here is what I have found recently with GC-i7 machines running
SATA 6.0 SSD Hard drives, vs, SATA 6.0 (and SATA3.0) 10000 RPM Drives
using the OCUS 64-bit test.

Test Scores:

Total CPU Graphics Disk
Config 1) 1824 1224 595 281
Config 2) 1879 1244 613 272
Config 3) 1806 1147 650 201
Config 4) 1807 1156 642 200



Explanation:

Config 1) current OCUS #1 Score. i7-920@4.0, Quadro FX3800, 6GB@1600,
SATA3.0 10000RPM HD, WinXP-64 SP2.
Config 2) current OCUS #2 Score. i7-920@4.0, Quadro FX3800, 6GB@1600,
SATA3.0 10000RPM HD, Win7-64.
Config 3) GC-i7 Score. (unpublished) i7-960@4.2, Quadro FX3800, 12GB@1600,
SATA6.0 10000RPM HD, Win7-64 SP1.
Config 3) GC-i7 Score. (unpublished) i7-960@4.2, Quadro FX3800, 12GB@1600,
SATA6.0 SSD HD, Win7-64 SP1.

Also (for those of you not familiar with the OCUS Benchmark scoring system)
The sum of CPU+Graphics+Disk, do not equal the total. They are not
supposed to. You can figure this our through the OCUS Benchmark site (
www.proesite.com) if you'd like to know why.

Observation:

The difference in the first two scores is totally based on Win7 vs WinXP
performance.
Notice the differences in Processor Over-Clocks, and HD's, and OS's.
The Disk performance on the last 2 scores vs the first 2 is much better due
to the combination of SATA6.0, and Processor OverClocks. Also, The
Graphics performance on the last two are slower due to Graphics driver
performance. (This is a whole different story but the short version is, the
Win7 SP1 Nvidia drivers are not as fast as the original Win7 drivers were.)
Anyway, focusing on the subject of this e-mail...
On the last 2 most similar machines, the Disk scores are within a second of
each other. Seems like Pro/E doesn't care about SSD's. (I ran this test
many times and the Disk score was always in a range of 199 to 203)
However, I will say that even though the Pro/E OCUS time stamps didn't
change much, the software (and overall machine performance) did feel very
"snappy". Windows OS opens instantly. Pro/E launches almost instantly.
There is ZERO delay when activating a Pro/E pop up GUI. (measure tool, or
draft check pop up). Also, the difference is noticable in other
applications. For example: opening a browser, launching an Office
application, or opening a PDF.

Conclusion:

Compared to the older 7200RPM SATA1.5 mechanical drives, the 10000RPM
SATA3.0 drives showed a real and measurable improvement with Pro/E
performance and that is why I have spec'ed them on every GC Professional
Workstation build over the last 2 years. Even though the new SSD's did not
show a measurable Pro/E performance boost, the overall user experience was
very "snappy".


Have a great week!
Bernie

Owner / Designer / Builder
www.grumancreations.com




On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Pogatetz, Douglas (ES)
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JOES
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At home I run two SSDs in RAID-0 & the performance is amazing. Intralink
3.4 opens really fast as does Pro. Win7 64 with 8 gigs of RAM with 5
gigs available to the OS because 3 gig is dedicated to a RAM disk. The RAM
disk has the virtual memory, 3 gig pagefile.sys. When I have a lot of
windows open I see no degradation of performance like I do on my 32 bit
machine at work.

I really can't say enough about the benefits of SSDs. Those OCZ drives
that use a PCI-E slot, bypassing the SATA bus completely are very enticing.
Keep in mind, configuring them properly & maintaining SSDs might be seen by
some IT departments as a deal breaker. I know without asking there is no
way I am going to be getting SSDs here at work anytime soon.

Regards,
Joe S.

On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 1:04 PM, Bernie Gruman
<->wrote:

> PTC-Users, I apologize for the late reply. I has been crazy busy around
> the office over the last couple of weeks. (Good problem to have... I'm not
> complaining... Smiley Happy
>
> As promised, Here is what I have found recently with GC-i7 machines
> running SATA 6.0 SSD Hard drives, vs, SATA 6.0 (and SATA3.0) 10000 RPM
> Drives using the OCUS 64-bit test.
>
> Test Scores:
>
> Total CPU Graphics Disk
> Config 1) 1824 1224 595 281
> Config 2) 1879 1244 613 272
> Config 3) 1806 1147 650 201
> Config 4) 1807 1156 642 200
>
>
>
> Explanation:
>
> Config 1) current OCUS #1 Score. i7-920@4.0, Quadro FX3800, 6GB@1600,
> SATA3.0 10000RPM HD, WinXP-64 SP2.
> Config 2) current OCUS #2 Score. i7-920@4.0, Quadro FX3800, 6GB@1600,
> SATA3.0 10000RPM HD, Win7-64.
> Config 3) GC-i7 Score. (unpublished) i7-960@4.2, Quadro FX3800,
> 12GB@1600, SATA6.0 10000RPM HD, Win7-64 SP1.
> Config 3) GC-i7 Score. (unpublished) i7-960@4.2, Quadro FX3800,
> 12GB@1600, SATA6.0 SSD HD, Win7-64 SP1.
>
> Also (for those of you not familiar with the OCUS Benchmark scoring system)
> The sum of CPU+Graphics+Disk, do not equal the total. They are not
> supposed to. You can figure this our through the OCUS Benchmark site (
> www.proesite.com) if you'd like to know why.
>
> Observation:
>
> The difference in the first two scores is totally based on Win7 vs WinXP
> performance.
> Notice the differences in Processor Over-Clocks, and HD's, and OS's.
> The Disk performance on the last 2 scores vs the first 2 is much better due
> to the combination of SATA6.0, and Processor OverClocks. Also, The
> Graphics performance on the last two are slower due to Graphics driver
> performance. (This is a whole different story but the short version is, the
> Win7 SP1 Nvidia drivers are not as fast as the original Win7 drivers were.)
> Anyway, focusing on the subject of this e-mail...
> On the last 2 most similar machines, the Disk scores are within a second of
> each other. Seems like Pro/E doesn't care about SSD's. (I ran this test
> many times and the Disk score was always in a range of 199 to 203)
> However, I will say that even though the Pro/E OCUS time stamps didn't
> change much, the software (and overall machine performance) did feel very
> "snappy". Windows OS opens instantly. Pro/E launches almost instantly.
> There is ZERO delay when activating a Pro/E pop up GUI. (measure tool, or
> draft check pop up). Also, the difference is noticable in other
> applications. For example: opening a browser, launching an Office
> application, or opening a PDF.
>
> Conclusion:
>
> Compared to the older 7200RPM SATA1.5 mechanical drives, the 10000RPM
> SATA3.0 drives showed a real and measurable improvement with Pro/E
> performance and that is why I have spec'ed them on every GC Professional
> Workstation build over the last 2 years. Even though the new SSD's did not
> show a measurable Pro/E performance boost, the overall user experience was
> very "snappy".
>
>
> Have a great week!
> Bernie
>
> Owner / Designer / Builder
> www.grumancreations.com
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Pogatetz, Douglas (ES) <
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>
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