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New Creo User

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Re: New Creo User

Hi Frank,

Here is a quick reference guide that may help you get associated & familiar with Creo Parametric:

Quick Reference Guide

Thanks,

Amit

Re: New Creo User

...and to answer your question, yes, it will give the X, Y, and Z, and Delta (ditto) in relation to. a selected coordinate system.  You have to select the Csys and you have to manually activate the selection request by highlighting the field in the UI.

Creo rarely assumes things that are better selectable.  However, a default checkbox here would have been nice.

Re: New Creo User

isn't the information give by the measure tool in Creo 2.0,3.0 confusing.i\I mean which is the x-coordinate,y-coordinate,z-coordinate.which is the projected distance ..with just one line showing a distance?

In Creo Elements/Pro 5.0 there where separate dimension lines for each coordinate.

Re: New Creo User

Welcome to community,

in order to make my input short as possible, will describe only keynotes. EVERYTHING needs much more investigation from your side.

Forum rules:

- fill tags in order to help others in searching

- mark correct and helpfull answer

- make separate topics for individual task. For example: Don´t ask about "constrains" in the topic called "New creo user" ... pls dont be angry to me

Generrall rules:

- keep your eyes open and be openminded

- don´t be scare to do mistake and take lessons from them ofc

- dummy is who don´t ask ... don´t be shy to ask something. Say THX if someone helped you.

- make your own knowledge library. Better to search your HDD then remmeber something .

- if you can´t find some icon ---> use search tool at the upper right corner

- use right mouse button to click secial items (top of arrow, lines in drawing) ---> many pop-up menus are hidden under RMB

Modeling rules:

- 3D model is INFORMATION HOLDER ---> drawing is "under" 3D model

- EVERYTHING IS ABOUT REFERENCES (from long time point of view)

- keep your references logicaly (use your brain before you click "something")

- NO EXTERNAL references are allowed

- SAINT RULE for companies and teams: "It is not import important if we ALL are modeling bad or good. Imprtant is, that WE ARE DOING SAME WAY. Only this way you can quickly take an orientation and understand your colleagues 3D models."

Knowledge sources:

- find your local PTC provider and pay for hotline support. My own is  Homepage - Aveng.eu ---  their hotline service is the best knowledge source.

- look into older models in your company and take some inspiration

- search this forum: https://www.ptcusercommunity.com/

- search Youtube:

    - basic assemblies:  E5 CREO Parametric 2.0 Assembly Basics 1 - YouTube

    - basic sheetmetal: Mounting Bracket || Creo Parametric Sheet Metal Tutorial - YouTube

- check as many totorials as you can:

    - E-Cognition Inc - Consumer Product Design/Development - Free Pro/E Wildfire Video Tutorials

    - Vladimir is the best one: Home | 4K Side - Pro/ENGINEER & PTC Creo Parametric Tutorials, Training, Mentoring, Customization an...

    - check Grabcad tutorials: Ptc creo parametric questions - GrabCAD

- search on Google

Some areas where you should focus on first:

- how does "Erease all displayed works "

- what is connection between part and drawing

- references

- parameters

- creo basic customization (config.pro; drw.dtl). See following list: Creo 3.0 M010 --- Configuration options In Creo you have large customization possibilities

Find your mentor:

- specially here are many persons, who "always have true" or at least very logical opinion. THX all of you...

     - Antonius DirriwachterTomD.inPDX

     - Tom Uminn

     - Vladimir Palffy

     - MartinHanak

     - David Schenken

     - sry if l forgot someone

Hope it can helps

Regards

Milan

Re: New Creo User

We have rules!

Re: New Creo User

Frank, I feel for you.  Personally, I have a hard time recommending a new ME on Creo parametric specially if they don't have a mentor or proper training.

As a new customer, many VARs also offer a PTC University primer that does better than the free tutorials.  It is actually well organized.  I came back to PTC after a long time on Unigraphics NX.  I updated my maintenance and received Creo 1.0 and 1 year of PTC University basic level.

What I don't see if comprehensive detail drawing training.  This is becoming a lost art.  But I fully understand you anxiety on this one.  I stayed back on Creo 2.0 for this very reason.  They experimented with a new UI on annotation and not only a few of us have openly stated that it missed the mark.  For seasoned users, it is still fully functional if you get past the new UI.

USE YOUR SUPPORT CASES!  When something is not working, submit a support case!  You paid for this in Maintenance.  USE IT!

And as you come up with what is keeping you from getting your job done, post here concisely what the problem is.  If so desired, submit a support case at the same time.  Often the forum will give you guidance before the support case has replied but it will give you two perspectives.  Tech support has a way of finding some really obscure solutions to known Creo issues.

As for your management... yep, updating your resume may be useful, not because of Creo, but because of their attitude.  Seriously, every upgrade from a known package required a 1 day session to understand the differences.  A new package will require a training period.  And Creo's learning curve is already pretty steep.

Find out if you have access to the free PTC University from your VAR.  Tell your management that you require a reasonable training session.  PTC will give you quote.

Otherwise, just stick with it.  Creo really is a lot more powerful than the tools you've used.  I just added SolidWorks to my resume and I can tell you that Creo is leaps and bounds more capable as soon as you veer from basic geometry.

Last but not least, feel free to post files here if you would like a simple review.  Just activate the advanced editor here in the reply UI.

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Re: New Creo User

In your screen shot you've specified that the measurement should be he distance as projected on the View Plane (in the center of the dialog).  This, by definition, is a 2D measurement so there can be no X, Y & Z.  You set this as a View Plane measurement by clicking the button that looks like a computer screen.

Typically, if you select the measure summary, then one item and the other, it'll give you several pieces of info about the pair, but not the Z, Y & Z distances like SW.  If you click the "Projection" field and then select a coordinate system, it'll give you that X, Y & Z.

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Doug Schaefer | Experienced Mechanical Design Engineer
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Re: New Creo User

Coming from SW (I can't comment no the others), you'll find that Creo is less forgiving.  In the end, you may find that this is a strength rather than a limitation, but at first it'll drive you batty.  With nearly 20 years no Croe & Proe, when I have to use SW it takes me some time to flip my mindset and SW drives me nuts until I can.

SW anticipates your next move, makes a lot of assumptions about what you are trying to do and will generally take the input you give it and make something.  It takes the role of a helpful partner, anticipating and staying ahead of you.  Once you get used to it, you rely on it and its assistance.

Creo takes a wait for instructions approach. It is ready to do exactly what you tell it, but only what you tell it.  It doesn't assume much and generally doesn't try to do more than it's told.  If you don't know what to tell it, or you expect it to know what you're thinking (like SW tends to do), you will be frustrated.  Once you learn it's language and you learn how to describe explicitly what you want to happen, it becomes a very loyal partner, clinging to the instructions you've given and carrying them out explicitly.

There's nothing inherently wrong with either approach, but they have their strengths and weaknesses.  I find that features fail more often in SW, regardless of the care I put into building them, but they are usually easy and quick to fix so it doesn't matter much.  Feature failures in Creo can take more time to repair, because I have to be more explicit about fixing them, but if I build carefully they happen far less often.  Creo also gives me much more info on what failed and more options to fix them so that I have fewer failures down the tree.

If you keep this difference in philosophy in mind I think it'll help you. Personally, I find the level of control that Creo gives over SW empowering.  I may have to start slower, and build more deliberately, but I'm convinced that I finish faster and with a better design in the end.

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Doug Schaefer | Experienced Mechanical Design Engineer
LinkedIn

Re: New Creo User

Thanks again for your replies everyone and welcome once again Frank - ask and you shall receive.

Best,

Toby

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