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Provide an option to publish only inside a drawing border

Provide an option to publish only inside a drawing border

Too often we have users that forget they put something outside a drawing border.  Then the CAD worker publishes everything.  Some of these end up making the thumbnail very small because they somehow put something waaay outside the border.

Don't ask me how they do it.  I've asked and they never remember.

Occasionally information is put outside the border intentionally for one reason or another.

I propose adding options similar to what Autocad has when printing: Extents, Limits, etc.  An option to publish ONLY everything inside the drawing border.  It should be able to recognize the size of a drawing easily enough.

11 Comments
lscheeler
17-Peridot

Agreed!  After all, Creo can create a pdf that only prints the size of the drawing format/border, and that is all that the approval process focuses on.

Besides some irrelevant remnant information that may be outside the border, sometimes it might make sense for something (non-proprietary) to remain there for the designer, but not needed to be seen by everyone on the dwg.  I am very surprised there is not already an option to control this...!

abaird
1-Newbie

Some of our drawing formats contain blocks of text containing patent information or more recently a big box reading "FOR QUOTE ONLY" which can dragged in or out of the drawing as needed. It was not an issue for us before when we still used a paper ECN as printed drawings or drawings exported as pdfs would not capture the area outside of the format border.  However, now that our ECN is within Windchill and we plan to start using Creo View extensively, it has become an issue since, as described in the OP, the worker agent publishes everything.  For now we'll have to adjust our drawing formats and processes, but we hope to see something like this implemented soon.

lscheeler
17-Peridot

I think another way to do this is to publish everything, but then have the default view be of just the boarder stuff (essentially the same as the Creo Parametric default view).  Perhaps it is better to publish everything, but just don't have the default view show everything by default.  This sounds like a really simple approach while still being very useful.

TomU
23-Emerald II

Not sure what format you're publishing to but there is a method to only publish the paper area when publishing to HPGL (.plt files.)  Take a look at the hidden config option 'add_clip_command_iw_hpgl'.  (See https://support.ptc.com/appserver/cs/view/solution.jsp?n=CS151405 for more info.)  This option also affects the thumbnail since the thumbnail is just a smaller version of whatever is published.  Since we implemented this everything outside of the drawing area is no longer visible in Creo View or the thumbnail.  (I believe PDF publishing is already limited to paper area, so no changes should be needed there.)

lscheeler
17-Peridot

Tom Uminn,  After reading your post we set this config option add_clip_command_iw_hpgl YES and then upgraded our Creo View Publisher to M200.  We just tried checking in a dummy example and Creo View now correctly shows inside the boarder (which is fantastic!), however very oddly the thumbnail is still not centered on the dwg format.

  • Do you know of any other config option that helps control the thumbnail view?
  • What Creo build is your publisher using?
  • Any other ideas to get the thumbnail showing correctly?
TomU
23-Emerald II

Not sure if it matters but when testing this I was using the Creo View 3.1 Adapters and it was outputting the thumbnail at the same time, not separately later.

lscheeler
17-Peridot

This is new to me but this may be it.  We are going to look into this on the Server...We will try and post back when we know.  Thanks for the suggestions!

lscheeler
17-Peridot

Tom Uminn,

It looks like we cannot install the Creo 3.1 adapters while running Creo 2 publisher because it returned an error when we did this.  We are set to output the thumbnail though.

Since we made the original setting changes you recommended it looks we have gotten inconsistent results.  Our original testing of publishing after checking in a CAD object did NOT show the thumbnail correctly (showed outside the boarder), but deleting and recreating the published view from within the WC detail page did show correctly (only inside the boarder).  We are not yet sure if this behavior is consistent within these categories.

We may have to settle for this half working until we upgrade to Creo 3.  Thanks again for your help!

TomU
23-Emerald II

Lawrence Scheeler‌,

This statement seems odd.

It looks like we cannot install the Creo 3.1 adapters while running Creo 2 publisher because it returned an error when we did this.

According the to the Creo View Adapters Matrix, Creo 2.0 is supported with 3.1 and even with 4.0

4.0 F000:

lscheeler
17-Peridot

Thanks for the Screenshots Tom, I had trouble finding those.  Then I have no idea why it is giving us an error.  I think we are going to try using the Creo Parametric 3 publisher on the server rather than go through PTC to troubleshoot why it is not working with Creo Parametric 2...at this point.  Thanks for your help!

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