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BuddyHudson1-Visitor
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August 12, 2014
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Creo 2.0 M120 - Any feedback on this version anyone?

  • August 12, 2014
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Hey All,

 

I am wondering if anyone has downloaded and tried out the latest M120 release, and if anyone has any feedback good or bad?

 

Thanks,

Buddy Hudson


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Best answer by BrianMartin

So far for me, M120 has been very stable. It definitely resolves some small but annoying issues. For example, it resolves an error you frequently get in M100 that says Creo cannot exit due to operations being performed on the background. It doesn't pop up all the time but when it does you're forced to kill Creo from the Windows Task Manager. This is gone in M120. It's too soon to say if this build is any faster than M100. M110 was notoriously slow according to the OCUS benchmarks.

If you're in M090 or lower, I'd consider moving up to M120.

However, I disagree pretty strongly that going to Creo 3 is a good idea. There's no way I'd move my production environment to a F000 level release. I don't care if that release claims to walk on water, there's no way it's ready for prime time.

This sounds like I'm saying I don't trust PTC to put out a product that's been sufficiently tested and vetted for everyday use. If it doesn't sound like that, then let me make it crystal clear... I Do Not Trust PTC To Put Out A Fully Tested and Acceptably Bug Free Product on the first release. If you're running without Windchill and you're a very small business with only a few seats, you can probably safely move. If that's not you, then I'd advise testing the heck out of Creo 3 and waiting until at least M020 before moving. Even that is really aggressive. Some features of Creo 3 won't even be released until M020. Unless you want to be promoted to chief bug tester and overall chump, I'd be very careful about jumping too soon.

My goal is to move my production environment to Creo 3 in either late Q4 of this year or Q1 of 2015. That depends quite a bit on testing, benchmarks, and the impressions of the few brave (or insane) souls who take the plunge early. Don't get me wrong, I like Creo 3 and I'm excited for it to mature a bit into a product I can deploy... But over 25 years of experience deploying Pro/E and Creo tells me to be smart and wait until the big showstopper bugs have been found and fixed.

I'm still working through bugs from Creo 2, fat chance I'm doubling down on Creo 3 and hoping for a miracle.

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StephenW23-Emerald III
23-Emerald III
August 12, 2014

I had M120 installed a couple of days ago and haven't noticed any issues. I got it to test if for large assembly drawing performance improvements. I haven't done any real testing though. Just normal use.

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Inoram14-Alexandrite
14-Alexandrite
August 12, 2014

Good question. This is the first time in a while that I have not immediately installed a new build. m100 seems to run so good and m110 ran so bad.

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BuddyHudson1-VisitorAuthor
1-Visitor
August 12, 2014

Hey Matt,

That is interesting becuase I have not had any issues with M110 so far....what did you experience?

Buddy

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Inoram14-Alexandrite
14-Alexandrite
August 12, 2014

Just lots of crashes. I talked about it here.

http://communities.ptc.com/message/243956#243956

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BrianMartin13-AquamarineAnswer
13-Aquamarine
August 17, 2014

So far for me, M120 has been very stable. It definitely resolves some small but annoying issues. For example, it resolves an error you frequently get in M100 that says Creo cannot exit due to operations being performed on the background. It doesn't pop up all the time but when it does you're forced to kill Creo from the Windows Task Manager. This is gone in M120. It's too soon to say if this build is any faster than M100. M110 was notoriously slow according to the OCUS benchmarks.

If you're in M090 or lower, I'd consider moving up to M120.

However, I disagree pretty strongly that going to Creo 3 is a good idea. There's no way I'd move my production environment to a F000 level release. I don't care if that release claims to walk on water, there's no way it's ready for prime time.

This sounds like I'm saying I don't trust PTC to put out a product that's been sufficiently tested and vetted for everyday use. If it doesn't sound like that, then let me make it crystal clear... I Do Not Trust PTC To Put Out A Fully Tested and Acceptably Bug Free Product on the first release. If you're running without Windchill and you're a very small business with only a few seats, you can probably safely move. If that's not you, then I'd advise testing the heck out of Creo 3 and waiting until at least M020 before moving. Even that is really aggressive. Some features of Creo 3 won't even be released until M020. Unless you want to be promoted to chief bug tester and overall chump, I'd be very careful about jumping too soon.

My goal is to move my production environment to Creo 3 in either late Q4 of this year or Q1 of 2015. That depends quite a bit on testing, benchmarks, and the impressions of the few brave (or insane) souls who take the plunge early. Don't get me wrong, I like Creo 3 and I'm excited for it to mature a bit into a product I can deploy... But over 25 years of experience deploying Pro/E and Creo tells me to be smart and wait until the big showstopper bugs have been found and fixed.

I'm still working through bugs from Creo 2, fat chance I'm doubling down on Creo 3 and hoping for a miracle.

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rohit_rajan15-Moonstone
15-Moonstone
August 17, 2014

now we need to hold the "Ctrl" button to select more than one entity to give dimension in Creo 3.0 detailing..that is very frustrating..

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STEVEG21-Topaz I
21-Topaz I
August 18, 2014

So now it's using two hands to create a dimension instead of one. This is another step backwards by PTC. Imagine that.

It can help if you need to dimension only continous edges of a model. But probably 99.8% of the time that is not the case. What was PTC thinking?

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BuddyHudson1-VisitorAuthor
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August 19, 2014

Thanks to all of you for providing your feedback!

Buddy

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STEVEG21-Topaz I
21-Topaz I
March 13, 2015

Most of my users are on M110. Before we updated to that our users were on either M070 or M090. The users that had M070 HAD to stay on it. There is a bug in M080 - M110. If the computer or laptop has an integrated video card driver then Creo will NOT start no matter what I did. Once M120 came out I tested it on the computers that still had M070 and it worked. So I moved all our M070 users to M120.

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