I'm still learning the basics, so macros are out of my league. And I didnt realize I had to put it in preview mode to see the outline of the text box. I tried that several times, and I was really confused. But without centering, I'm back where I started. While I'm at it, and you are being so helpful, can I ask if there is a way to make a callout with multiple lines of text? Thanks for all your help so far...