Column Width Measurements

[JeffStevenson]

Hello all,

This may be a tall order, but I have a question on column width measurement in Styler 6.0.

We have a client that is upgraded from 5.3 to 6.0. All-in-all, the upgrade has had few issues. However, we have one issue where items are wrapping in tables in 6.0 where they did not in 5.3. Does anyone have a theory as to what may be causing the differences in column width?

The stylesheet uses CALS tables. The widths are relative (ie. 0.88*). I know it is a jump from 5.3 to 6.0. Has anyone else seen similar?

[ebenton]

Tableminimumrowheight, if set to a lower value in 6.0, that might cause some premature text breaking compared to 5.3. I don't know what the default was in 5.3 nor what it is in 6.0. You might check those values to see.

[JeffStevenson]

Hi Ed,

I looked at that setting. My issue is width not height. Changing the height didn't have an effect.

I'm wondering if anything changed regarding cell padding or hyphenation? As a test, I turned Word Breaking off for <entry>. This allowed the table cells that are wrapping to fit on 1 line with no problem, but cells that need to wrap are overwriting the following column.

The space in question here is perhaps. 0.5pt. For instance, if the character string is "00" it wraps, but if it is "11" it won't. The difference is neither "00" nor "11" used to wrap.

In Reply to Ed Benton:

Tableminimumrowheight, if set to a lower value in 6.0, that might cause some premature text breaking compared to 5.3. I don't know what the default was in 5.3 nor what it is in 6.0. You might check those values to see.

[tony.morales_ap]

Prior to Arbortext 6.0, you could see how many of your floating licenses were being used (and by whom). There was an item under the Help menu that presented this information.

Using Arbortext 6.0 floating flexera licenses, this option does not seem to be present. Is there a way to see how many of your flexera floating licenses are being used (and by whom) in Arbortext 6.0?

Thanks,

Tony

--
Tony Morales
Information Tools Architect
Oracle Corporation

[DavidS.Taylor]

Your problem may be related to the table cell margin settings.

If you set top, bottom, right or left table cell margins in 5.3 to a non-integer value these will be invalid in 6.0. Beginning in 5.4, these values must be integer, measured in points.

You might want to check the 5.4 release notes (for all 5.4 updates too) for any other changes that may cause problems in your 5.3 to 6.0 migration.

David

[ClayHelberg]

Hi Tony--

You can access this info using the Flexnet license administrator from
the server where the Flexera License server is running. It's a web app.
You can access it by going to the Start menu and choosing Start->All
Programs->PTC->PTC Flexnet Admin License Server-> PTC Flexnet Admin
License Server Web Interface. This will fire up your browser.

From there, under Licenses, click Concurrent. It will show you the
licenses enabled on the server, how many are in use and available, and
for licenses that are in use, there will be a "Hosts" link you can click
to get a list of clients that are using the licenses.

HTH

--Clay


Clay Helberg
Senior Consultant
TerraXML

[naglists]

Hi Jeff,

No direct experience, but ... hey, wait, I was going to say someone found a
change in hyphenation from 5.3 to 5.4 caused table cells to break
differently, but after searching, I saw it was you who told us that ... so
maybe you forgot, maybe it's a different issue, ... not sure.



On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Taylor, David S. <
david.s.taylor@nrc-cnrc.gc.ca> wrote:

> Your problem may be related to the table cell margin settings.****
>
> ** **
>
> If you set top, bottom, right or left table cell margins in 5.3 to a
> non-integer value these will be invalid in 6.0. Beginning in 5.4, these
> values must be integer, measured in points.****
>
> ** **
>
> You might want to check the 5.4 release notes (for all 5.4 updates too)
> for any other changes that may cause problems in your 5.3 to 6.0 migration.
> ****
>
> ** **
>
> David****
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> *From:* Jeff Stevenson [

[mbushby]

Alternatively, if like me you do not have easy access to the server where the Flexera License server
is running, you could get your system folk to run license management software that lets you check
the license usage from any other machine. We use the light version of OpenLM. Simple and
effective.

-- Martin


Martin Bushby
Kongsberg Maritime

[JeffStevenson]

Hi Paul,

Yes, it's a similar issue, but the same fix isn't working in 6.0 and we found that it didn't work in 5.4 either. This has been a longrunning project for many reasons.

In Reply to Paul Nagai:

Hi Jeff,

No direct experience, but ... hey, wait, I was going to say someone found a
change in hyphenation from 5.3 to 5.4 caused table cells to break
differently, but after searching, I saw it was you who told us that ... so
maybe you forgot, maybe it's a different issue, ... not sure.



On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Taylor, David S. <
@david.s.taylor@nrc-cnrc.gc.ca> wrote:

> Your problem may be related to the table cell margin settings.****
>
> ** **
>
> If you set top, bottom, right or left table cell margins in 5.3 to a
> non-integer value these will be invalid in 6.0. Beginning in 5.4, these
> values must be integer, measured in points.****
>
> ** **
>
> You might want to check the 5.4 release notes (for all 5.4 updates too)
> for any other changes that may cause problems in your 5.3 to 6.0 migration.
> ****
>
> ** **
>
> David****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Jeff Stevenson [mailto:jstevenson@gpslsolutions.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 04, 2012 12:37 PM
> *To:* -
> *Subject:* [adepters] - Column Width Measurements****
>
> ** **
>
> Hello all,****
>
> This may be a tall order, but I have a question on column width
> measurement in Styler 6.0.****
>
> We have a client that is upgraded from 5.3 to 6.0. All-in-all, the
> upgrade has had few issues. However, we have one issue where items are
> wrapping in tables in 6.0 where they did not in 5.3. Does anyone have a
> theory as to what may be causing the differences in column width?****
>
> The stylesheet uses CALS tables. The widths are relative (ie. 0.88*). I
> know it is a jump from 5.3 to 6.0. Has anyone else seen similar?****
>
> ** **

[ClayHelberg]

Hi Jeff--



If you haven't already done so, it might be worth printing out the same
table as published in 5.3 and 6.0, and then superimpose the pages to try
to pin down what the exact difference is:



* Overall table width?

* Cell padding/margins?

* Text size?

* Text kerning?

* Column widths? (If so, where is the extra space getting
allocated that is missing from the narrowed columns?)



--Clay





Clay Helberg

Senior Consultant

TerraXML

[JeffStevenson]

I found the issue. In 5.4, overflowhyphen was added. Setting this to 0 took care of the issue.

http://www.ptc.com/cs/help/arbortext_hc/ae60m030_hc/index.jspx?id=help6000&action=show

Thanks for the help everyone!

-Jeff