using arial unicode ms characters in my FOSI

naglists · ‎Jul 30, 2012

Specifically
Unicode Character 'HEAVY WIDE-HEADED RIGHTWARDS ARROW' (U+2794)

problem in my FOSI. I am currently trying to replace two characters I
previously pulled from a Zapf Dingbats BT font with characters from Arial
Unicode MS. The arrow and shadowed square above. Nothing displays.

I can get close on the square:
Unicode Character 'WHITE SQUARE' (U+25A1)

<charsubset charsubsetref="zapf">
<usetext source="\&x10132;\" placemnt="before">
<subchars charsubsetref="arialms">
</subchars>
</att>

Any thoughts?

--
Paul Nagai

DavidS.Taylor · ‎Jul 31, 2012

What has worked for me is using a charent.cf file in the custom/lib directory. The file only needs to contain the characters you want to re-map, as follows:

#*******************************************************************************************
#Description: This file contains character mappings for specific character entities
# that don't have glyphs in the regular Codes fonts. See the main
# charent.cf file in the 'lib' directory of the Arbortext Editor
# installation tree for an explanation of how this file works
#
#*******************************************************************************************
accents: # ENTITIES IN THIS SECTION ARE OF TYPE "accent"

windowsonly:

macr - - unicode 0x2C9 =

endwindowsonly:

chars: # THE REMAINDER OF THE ENTITIES IN THE FILE ARE OF TYPE "char"

puncsp - - unicode 0x2008 current "\hmode\kern.2em|"

windowsonly:

check "Arial Unicode MS" 0x2713 unicode 0x2713 "Arial Unicode MS" 0x2713

endwindowsonly:

#

I don't need to put any special character handling in the FOSI.

Would this perhaps work for you?

David

David S. Taylor

Project Manager, Production and Marketing
Codes and Evaluations | NRC Construction Portfolio
National Research Council Canada
Building M-23A, Room 239 | 1200 Montreal Road | Ottawa, ON | K1A 0R6
Telephone: +1.613.990.2731 | Fax: +1.613.952.4040
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naglists · ‎Jul 31, 2012

Thanks, David,

We abandoned the charent.cf file a long time ago because it was not
foolproof. I do not know if it has since been fixed, but there was a time
when Arbortext could not guarantee that the charent.cf file would "fire"
only at the end of the content pipeline just before applying the print
stylesheet ... when it fired prematurely, the character mapping did not
necessarily survive subsequent parsings resulting in unpredictable final
output.

I'll keep this option in mind though ... if nothing else works (and we
can't convince our authors to accept similar but not identical glyphs), I
may have to give that another try.

On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 6:17 AM, Taylor, David S. <
david.s.taylor@nrc-cnrc.gc.ca> wrote:

> What has worked for me is using a charent.cf file in the custom/lib
> directory. The file only needs to contain the characters you want to
> re-map, as follows:****
>
> ** **
>
>
> #*******************************************************************************************
> ****
>
> #Description: This file contains character mappings for specific
> character entities ****
>
> # that don't have glyphs in the regular Codes fonts. See
> the main****
>
> # charent.cf file in the 'lib' directory of the
> Arbortext Editor****
>
> # installation tree for an explanation of how this file
> works****
>
> #****
>
>
> #*******************************************************************************************
> ****
>
> accents: # ENTITIES IN THIS SECTION ARE OF TYPE "accent"****
>
> ** **
>
> windowsonly:****
>
> ** **
>
> macr - - unicode 0x2C9 =****
>
> ** **
>
> endwindowsonly:****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> chars: # THE REMAINDER OF THE ENTITIES IN THE FILE ARE OF TYPE "char"**
> **
>
> ** **
>
> puncsp - - unicode 0x2008 current "\hmode\kern.2em|"***
> *
>
> ** **
>
> windowsonly:****
>
> ** **
>
> check "Arial Unicode MS" 0x2713 unicode 0x2713 "Arial Unicode
> MS" 0x2713****
>
> ** **
>
> endwindowsonly:****
>
> ** **
>
> #****
>
> ** **
>
> I don't need to put any special character handling in the FOSI. ****
>
> ** **
>
> Would this perhaps work for you?****
>
> ** **
>
> David****
>
> ** **
>
> *David S. Taylor*
>
>
> *Project Manager, *Production and Marketing
> Codes and Evaluations | *NRC Construction Portfolio*
> National Research Council Canada
> Building M-23A, Room 239 | 1200 Montreal Road | Ottawa, ON | K1A 0R6****
>
> Telephone: +1.613.990.2731 | Fax: +1.613.952.4040
> David.S.Taylor@nrc-cnrc.gc.ca****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Paul Nagai [
> problem in my FOSI. I am currently trying to replace two characters I
> previously pulled from a Zapf Dingbats BT font with characters from Arial
> Unicode MS. The arrow and shadowed square above. Nothing displays.
>
> I can get close on the square:
> Unicode Character 'WHITE SQUARE' (U+25A1)
>
> <charsubset charsubsetref="zapf">
> <usetext source="\&x10132;\" placemnt="before">
> <subchars charsubsetref="arialms">
> </subchars>
> </att>
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> --
> Paul Nagai****

DavidS.Taylor · ‎Jul 31, 2012

Hi Paul,

I've been using the charent.cf file for about 2 years now (AE 5.2 m130 and 5.4 m080) and it has been working well. I don't know if there was a problem prior to those releases. It did take a while to fully understand how it's supposed to work, some experimentation was needed.

Most character rendering problems we have now can be traced back to content that authors cut and pasted into AE, bringing in incorrect or non-standard character codes from the original document application.

Cheers,

David

naglists · ‎Jul 31, 2012

Do know if you use anything that forces a trip through the content
pipeline? (Profiling and Dynamic Link Manager (DLM) are examples)?

On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Taylor, David S. <
david.s.taylor@nrc-cnrc.gc.ca> wrote:

> Hi Paul,****
>
> ** **
>
> I've been using the charent.cf file for about 2 years now (AE 5.2 m130
> and 5.4 m080) and it has been working well. I don't know if there was a
> problem prior to those releases. It did take a while to fully understand
> how it's supposed to work, some experimentation was needed.****
>
> ** **
>
> Most character rendering problems we have now can be traced back to
> content that authors cut and pasted into AE, bringing in incorrect or
> non-standard character codes from the original document application.****
>
> ** **
>
> Cheers,****
>
> ** **
>
> David****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Paul Nagai [
> only at the end of the content pipeline just before applying the print
> stylesheet ... when it fired prematurely, the character mapping did not
> necessarily survive subsequent parsings resulting in unpredictable final
> output.
>
> I'll keep this option in mind though ... if nothing else works (and w...

> problem in my FOSI. I am currently trying to replace two characters I
> previously pulled from a Zapf Dingbats BT font with characters from Arial
> Unicode MS. The arrow and shadowed square above. Nothing displays.
>
> I can get close on the square:
> Unicode Character 'WHITE SQUARE' (U+25A1)
>
> <charsubset charsubsetref="zapf">
> <usetext source="\&x10132;\" placemnt="before">
> <subchars charsubsetref="arialms">
> </subchars>
> </att>
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> --
> Paul Nagai****
>

DavidS.Taylor · ‎Jul 31, 2012

We don't use either of those. Also we are using Print Composer for composition to Postscript or PDF in most cases.

David

naglists · ‎Jul 31, 2012

I have zero recollection of how the composition pipeline works (or, at this
hour of this day, whether it even exists) in Print Composer.

But, I do know it was after we started using PE (then E3) that we abandoned
the charent.cf.

On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:18 PM, Taylor, David S. <
david.s.taylor@nrc-cnrc.gc.ca> wrote:

> We don't use either of those. Also we are using Print Composer for
> composition to Postscript or PDF in most cases.****
>
> ** **
>
> David****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Paul Nagai [
> only at the end of the content pipeline just before applying the print
> stylesheet ... when it fired prematurely, the character mapping did not
> necessarily survive subsequent parsings resulting in unpredictable final
> output.
>
> I'll keep this option in mind though ... if nothing else works (and w...

> problem in my FOSI. I am currently trying to replace two characters I
> previously pulled from a Zapf Dingbats BT font with characters from Arial
> Unicode MS. The arrow and shadowed square above. Nothing displays.
>
> I can get close on the square:
> Unicode Character 'WHITE SQUARE' (U+25A1)
>
> <charsubset charsubsetref="zapf">
> <usetext source="\&x10132;\" placemnt="before">
> <subchars charsubsetref="arialms">
> </subchars>
> </att>
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> --
> Paul Nagai****
>