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Hideho, How we modify the hole command (callout) to fit my company's standard. It's a pain to edit it and you lose to parametric qualities of the system. Using WildFire 2.0 I'm glad your out there. There are only 2 of here that use Pro-E. Which by the way I find a excellent program. I've used Catia, AutoCad and Pro is the best!!! Thanks.