User experiences with creo elements/pro 5 (build M090)

[thomas_hogan_99]

Hello,

We are planning on upgrading to creo elements/pro 5 (build M090) shortly. We will be using it with PDMLink 9.1/m40

We have evaluated this build and have not encountered any "show stopper" type issues. Before we "jump in", I was doing a last check to verify if you have encountered any issues either with Pro/E or with it's PDMLink interaction that we should be aware of.

Thanks in advance for a prompt reply!

Tom Hogan
thomas_hogan@verizon.net

[TomU]

One issue that we've recently run into (which may or may not be a problem for you) has to do with curve display in drawings. In both M060 and M120 we are seeing a problem where curves will not obey the layer status in a drawing, they only follow the layer status in the part (which should be ignored). That means if you create a part with curves and then hide those curves (in the part), you can't show the curves in the drawing, regardless of the drawing's layer settings. Curves in a drawing are only following the layer status of the part. (Everything else, datum planes, points, surfaces, etc. behaves as expected - drawing layer controls their visibility independent of the part's layer settings). I am in the process of getting an SPR filed for this issue. By the way, this issue only occurs with drawings that have been created in WF5. Drawings made in earlier versions, but then opened in WF5 don't display this behavior.

Tom Uminn
Systems Administrator
trans-matic Mfg.
616-820-2499
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[llie]

Tom,

Another issue that I am seeing is in the Sketcher RMB options. It changed
from WF4 to WF5 and they say it is resolved in WF5 M110. Below is from the
case number.

In Wildfire 4.0 (and earlier), one can start a sketch tool (i.e.
Rectangle), create the sketch, then RMB and be able to select another
sketch tool from the Right-mouse Menu. This will finish the current sketch,
and the user would be able to select another sketch tool and create another
sketch right away. One never had to explicitly finish the current sketch by
using Middle-Mouse before being able to activate the Right-Mouse Menu and
select the next command. The Right-Mouse menu always showed the sketch
commands of Line, Rectangle, Circle, 3-Point/Tangent End, Centerline,
Fillet, and Dimension.

However, in Wildfire 5.0, this is no longer true for all sketch commands.
Using the Rectangle, Fillet, and Dimension commands behave just like it did
Wildfire 4.0. However, when using Circle, 3-Point/Tangent arc, Centerline,
and Line requires one to explicitly finish the current command by using
Middle-Mouse, then click away to deselect, and now RMB Menu will have the
full list of sketcher tools again.

Resolved Release says WF5 M110.


Raytheon

Lance Lie
Sr Computer System
Technologist II
310.616.1551 office
310.426.4968 cell
310-647.0315 fax
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[bparrish]

WF5 M120

The Sketcher RMB functionality works the same as Wildfire 4.0 (just tested).

HIH
Brian

[c128]

Hi Tom, hi all.
There is an issue in WF5 considering drawing erase/delete of dimensions and axes.
With the invention of the drawing tree, shown dims and axes are linked to the corresponding views (can be seen in tree). Now the problem is that if you erase an axis or dimension, it is still linked to the view where it was shown - just having the status "erased".
The problem here is, that now you cannot show it again with the show annotations dialog - either in another view or the view it used to be shown in. What you have to do is to find it in the drawing tree, select it and then either unerase or delete it. Having large drawings with sometimes more than 100 dimensions to a view scrolling down that list and looking for erased dimensions really hurts.
There have been SPRs for this and as of M110 there's a solution for dimensions and of M120 it's there for axes as well. In both cases its a hidden drawing option "user_command" that can be set to either "delete_erased_axis" or "delete_erased_dimensions". Entering that option changes the status of all erased axes/dimensions to deleted and you can now again use the show annotations for these elements in any view you like.

HTH
Matthias.

[dgallup]

Does Creo Parametric suffer from the same problem?

In Reply to Matthias Stueber:

Hi Tom, hi all.
There is an issue in WF5 considering drawing erase/delete of dimensions and axes.
With the invention of the drawing tree, shown dims and axes are linked to the corresponding views (can be seen in tree). Now the problem is that if you erase an axis or dimension, it is still linked to the view where it was shown - just having the status "erased".
The problem here is, that now you cannot show it again with the show annotations dialog - either in another view or the view it used to be shown in. What you have to do is to find it in the drawing tree, select it and then either unerase or delete it. Having large drawings with sometimes more than 100 dimensions to a view scrolling down that list and looking for erased dimensions really hurts.
There have been SPRs for this and as of M110 there's a solution for dimensions and of M120 it's there for axes as well. In both cases its a hidden drawing option "user_command" that can be set to either "delete_erased_axis" or "delete_erased_dimensions". Entering that option changes the status of all erased axes/dimensions to deleted and you can now again use the show annotations for these elements in any view you like.

HTH
Matthias.

PS: Just glad, we wait for M130.

PTC quality philosophy: We've upped our quality standards. Up yours.

[c128]

Hi David.
AFAIK it still applies in Creo 1.0 (same hidden option available from M020 upward)- rumors say it has really been solved in 2.0.

Cheers
Matthias.


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