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We are on the System i (aka AS/400) using Implementer. We are transitioning from defining our physical and logical files using DDS to using SQL DDL to define SQL Tables and Views. I would like to get some thoughts and opinions from other users of Implementer that are using SQL DDL as to how they structure their SQL DDL script source members within Implementer and promote them through their various environments?
Any input/thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
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From an Implementer standpoint, the process is quite similar, although behind the scenes, things work differently. But if you have been using the optimize flag for DDS file types, the process would be more familiar. SQL requires that the optimize flag be set to Y.
You would still check out your files (Implementer provides all of the SQL file type object codes for you), make your changes in Development and compile there. You just need to change your source. Implementer will automatically handle the drop and the alter table statements for you.
When you promote forward, the process is exactly the same as traditional files. If the compile-required flag is set to Y, Implementer still compiles the tables and other DDL files in the work library. When you do the move however, if the file object exists in the target library, Implementer automatically generates your alter table statement for you and does the CHGPF/CHGLF against the existing file. If the files do not exist in the target, the compiled file in the work library is moved to the target, just as a traditional file would be.
Related object processing is much more enhanced for SQL because you can use techniques such as view within view. The current release 10.2 can handle all of these new SQL relationships for you.
As far as converting an existing DDS file to a DDL table, there is a KnowledgeBase article on our website that gives you the detailed steps on how to accomplish that.
Please let me know if you have any other questions.
From an Implementer standpoint, the process is quite similar, although behind the scenes, things work differently. But if you have been using the optimize flag for DDS file types, the process would be more familiar. SQL requires that the optimize flag be set to Y.
You would still check out your files (Implementer provides all of the SQL file type object codes for you), make your changes in Development and compile there. You just need to change your source. Implementer will automatically handle the drop and the alter table statements for you.
When you promote forward, the process is exactly the same as traditional files. If the compile-required flag is set to Y, Implementer still compiles the tables and other DDL files in the work library. When you do the move however, if the file object exists in the target library, Implementer automatically generates your alter table statement for you and does the CHGPF/CHGLF against the existing file. If the files do not exist in the target, the compiled file in the work library is moved to the target, just as a traditional file would be.
Related object processing is much more enhanced for SQL because you can use techniques such as view within view. The current release 10.2 can handle all of these new SQL relationships for you.
As far as converting an existing DDS file to a DDL table, there is a KnowledgeBase article on our website that gives you the detailed steps on how to accomplish that.
Please let me know if you have any other questions.
Thanks for you reply Sharon.
If I am understanding correctly we would do the following:
Am I understanding the above process correctly?
A few more questions:
5. Should CREATE VIEW statements be seperate checkouts?
6. Should CREATE INDEX statements be a seperate checkout?
7. Implementer would also properly handle any Referential Constraint and/or Primary Key changes relating to the CREATE TABLE statements when changes are made?
You are definitely understanding the steps correctly.
Yes, there are object codes for both views and indexes. They should be separate checkouts, and are treated like traditional logical files, as far as related objects are concerned.
And yes, Implementer can handle referential constraints and primary keys.
Hello Smigliorato, I cannot find the Knowledge article related converting existing DDS file to DDL tables, can you provide the correct link?
Thanks,
Michael W.
Hi Mike,
we are defining the same process (from DDS to DDL) using always Implementer, it works very fine!
Any thoughts on how to handle indexes? Are you adding indexes to the same SQL script as the CREATE TABLE statement or are you createing seperate SQL script members (checkouts) for indexes?
In my opinion is correct to create an association one item/one check-out. That for a better traceability. Therefore it could be happen to modify the index Key and not to modify the table. So my suggestion is to create a separate Sql script member for every source. Thanks Tommaso
Thanks for the input Tommaso. Do you ever use System i Navigator Index Advisor to create indexes or do you always create them in Implementer and promote them thru the proper environments?
When a table is re-created or altered are all of the indexes reapplied as well or is that something you would need to do as a re-compile or equivilant in Implementer?
Hi Mike,
i suggest you to use always Implementer.
When a table has modified, all indexes/Views/pgm in automatic are pulled as recompiled. It works very fine with *file objects!
at disposition for further info...Tommaso
P.S What Implementer version are you using?
Tommaso,
We hare using version 2010.
When doing some tests we are losing our unique and check contstraints when promoting a table. Do you have any issues with promoting constraints?
Thanks
Hi Mike,
could you send me an example?? What do you mean for "unique and che ckeck constraints"?
Constraints like Primary Key?? Constraints like Foreign Key or integrity check on the column definition??
Thanks,
Tommaso
An example would be as follows:
Create Table CSMLGMSP(
CMEQID bigint generated always as identity
(start with 1, increment by 1) primary key,
MileageVersion for column CMMLVR CHAR(40) NOT NULL DEFAULT '' ,
RecordStatus for column CMRCST CHAR(1) NOT NULL DEFAULT '' ,
CHECK (CMRCST = 'A' OR CMRCST = 'I' ))
RCDFMT CSMLGMSR ;
When it is promoted to the QA environment it does not have the Primary Key constraint or the Check constraint defined. Any thoughts?
Ok...please send me the following print screen:
-QA environment configuration.
-SQLTABL object code.
Probably you need to set any parameter.
In my qa environment all works fine.
Bye,
Tommaso
QA Configuration:
DSPENV.1 Display Environment
Environment . . . . . . . . . : WERCUSQA Name
Description . . . . . . . . . : Customer
Administrator . . . . . . . . : ADMINS Administator
Env type . . . . . . . . . . . : *QAC
Archive
Library defaults: Name Lib owner Obj owner Versions
Program library . : CUSTEST QPGMR QPGMR
Files library . . : CUSTEST QPGMR QPGMR
Source library . . : CUSTEST QPGMR QPGMR
Archive library :
Create Request defaults: Chg
Compile required . . . . . . : Y Y Y=Yes, N=No
Auto submit in create rqs . : Y Y Y=Yes, N=No
Through step . . . . . . . : 4 Y 2=Comp, 3=Dist, 4=Move
Add related objects to rqs . : Y Y Y=Yes, N=No
More...
F3=Exit F8=Object codes F11=Authorities F12=Cancel
F13=Library list F20=User profiles F21=Work env groups
DSPENV.2 Display Environment
Create request options:
Check out required . . . . . : N Y=Yes, N=No
Allow authority overrides . : N Y=Yes, N=No
Environment information:
Special environment . . . . : Standard
Design rqs rqd in check out : N Y=Yes, N=No
Project reference required . : N Y=Yes, N=No
Retain error-free joblogs . : N Y=Yes, N=No
Remove obj in from lib/env . : 1 1=Always, 2=Never, 3=Per obj code
Remove src in from lib/env . : 1 1=Always, 2=Never, 3=Per obj code
Maintain related object info : Y Y=Yes, N=No
Source of information . . : 1 1=Implementer, 2=Pathfinder
Pathfinder X-ref library . : *DEFAULTS Name, *DEFAULTS
Update Pathfinder X-ref . : N Y=Yes, N=No
DOCLIBL for X-ref updates : *DEFAULTS Name, *DEFAULTS, *USER, *STANDARD
More...
F3=Exit F12=Cancel
DSPENV.3 Display Environment
MKS Integrity issue state: Name, *DEFAULT, *NONE
When arrives in this env . . : *DEFAULT
When rejected from this env : *DEFAULT
Remote information:
System . . . . . . . . . . . : HQDEV1
Source library location . . : L L=Local, R=Remote
Compile location . . . . . . : L L=Local, R=Remote
Distribution method . . . . : 1 1=SNADS 2=Tape
3=DVD 4=SDMCOM
7=TCP/IP-FTP 8=TCP/IP-Tape
Remote initiated move . . . : N N=No, Y=Yes
Updates host . . . . . . . : N N=No, Y=Yes
Retain requests on remote . : N Y=Yes, N=No
Promotion notification queue : Name, *NETATR, *LOC
*LIBL *LIBL, Name
Target release . . . . . . . : *NETCONFIG
Bottom
F3=Exit F12=Cancel
The SQLTABL code is as follows:
Create Table CSMLGMSP(
CMEQID bigint generated always as identity
(start with 1, increment by 1) primary key,
MileageVersion for column CMMLVR CHAR(40) NOT NULL DEFAULT '' ,
RecordStatus for column CMRCST CHAR(1) NOT NULL DEFAULT '' ,
CHECK (CMRCST = 'A' OR CMRCST = 'I' ))
RCDFMT CSMLGMSR ;
LABEL ON TABLE CSMLGMSP
IS 'Rand/PCMiler Mileage Source Master' ;
LABEL ON COLUMN CSMLGMSP
(MileageVersion IS 'Mileage Version' ,
RecordStatus IS 'Record Status (A I)');
LABEL ON COLUMN CSMLGMSP
(MileageVersion Text IS 'Mileage Version' ,
RecordStatus Text IS 'Record Status (A I)');
I apologize Mike, but for display object code i mean this:
Object code . . . . . . . . . : SQLTABL SQL Table
Activity flag . . . . . . . . . 1 1=Active, 0=Inactive
Object type . . . . . . . . . . *FILE
Object attribute . . . . . . . . PF
Source member type . . . . . . . TABLE
Default source file . . . . . . QTBLSRC
Creation sequence . . . . . . . 100 1-9999
Special characteristics . . . . SQLTABLES *DATA, *MERGE, *MAINT, ...
Object authority . . . . . . . . *KEEP *KEEP, *GRANT
Remove obj in from env . . . . . Y Y=Yes, N=No
Remove src in from env . . . . . Y Y=Yes, N=No
Creation process . . . . . . . . C C=Compile, M=Move
Archive in MKS Source . . . . . Y Y=Yes, N=No
Creation command . . . . . . . . RUNSQLSTM SRCFILE(£SRCLIB/£SRCFIL) SRCMBR(£S
RCMBR) COMMIT(*NONE) DFTRDBCOL(*NONE)
Below is Display Object Code for SQLTABL:
DSPOBC.1 Display Object Code
Object code . . . . . . . . . . SQLTABL SQL Table
Activity flag . . . . . . . . : 1 1=Active, 0=Inactive
Object type . . . . . . . . . : *FILE
Object attribute . . . . . . . : PF
Source member type . . . . . . : SQLTABL
Default source file . . . . . : WERSRC
Creation sequence . . . . . . : 0100 1-ZZZZ
Special characteristics . . . : *DATA, *MERGE, *MAINT, ...
Object authority . . . . . . . : *KEEP *KEEP, *GRANT
Remove obj in from env . . . . : N Y=Yes, N=No
Remove src in from env . . . . : N Y=Yes, N=No
Creation process . . . . . . . : C C=Compile, M=Move
Archive in MKS Source . . . . : Y Y=Yes, N=No
Creation command . . . . . . . : RUNSQLSTM SRCFILE(#SRCLIB/#SRCFIL) SRCMBR(#S
RCMBR) COMMIT(*NONE) DFTRDBCOL(#FILLIB)
F3=Exit F12=Cancel
Let modify it, adding:
Special characteristics . . . . SQLTABLES.
...and try again! Keep me posted about