Oracle License

[DonSenchuk]

We're at the beginning stages of looking into an upgrade from Windchill 8.0 to Windchill 10.0.

Our VAR sent a Statement of Work for performing this upgrade and one of the line items details that we need to provide Oracle licenses. We've never purchased this in the past. After speaking with out PTC Account Exec, he confirmed that PTC no longer includes Oracle with Windchill. Now I have the task of figuring out how many Oracle Standard Edition One licenses to purchase. I've put in a ticket with PTC to get their help, but I may as well ask the user forums at the same time.

Do we purchase one Oracle license to correspond to each Windchill license? Or do we purchase one Oracle license to correspond to each unique user name used in Windchill?

Thanks.

[BenLoosli]

What application do you have, Intralink or PDMLink?
Intralink Oracle licenses are provided by PTC, PDMLink are not.

You only need Oracle licenses for the number of cores on your server.
It is totally independent on the number of users or Windchill licenses.

Thank you,

Ben H. Loosli
USEC, INC.

[gchampoux]

Oracle is still included from PTC if
Cost is $180/user or $5,800 per server. Per-server is less costly at 33+ users.
Oracle One is limited to servers with no more than 2 physical CPU's. (not cores)
Functionality is identical to Standard.

http://www.oracle.com/us/corporate/pricing/price-lists/index.html

Gerry Champoux
Williams International
Walled Lake, MI

In Reply to Don Senchuk:

We're at the beginning stages of looking into an upgrade from Windchill 8.0 to Windchill 10.0.

Our VAR sent a Statement of Work for performing this upgrade and one of the line items details that we need to provide Oracle licenses. We've never purchased this in the past. After speaking with out PTC Account Exec, he confirmed that PTC no longer includes Oracle with Windchill. Now I have the task of figuring out how many Oracle Standard Edition One licenses to purchase. I've put in a ticket with PTC to get their help, but I may as well ask the user forums at the same time.

Do we purchase one Oracle license to correspond to each Windchill license? Or do we purchase one Oracle license to correspond to each unique user name used in Windchill?

[JoeD]

To further complicate things Oracle may be embedded with INTRALINK (if
purchased prior to 2004) or as a separate license sold by PTC (if purchased
after 2003). Either way if you have INTRALINK and upgrade to INTRALINK you
can elect to keep Oracle from PTC. If you move from INTRALINK to PDMLINK you
need to buy Oracle.





From Decemebr 2003

"Pro/INTRALINK Pricing & Packaging Change Overview

PTC is currently conducting an analysis of all products that deliver 3rd
party technology to our customers. As part of our efforts to make our
products more price-competitive and increase product flexibility, on January
1, 2004 PTC will offer Pro/INTRALINK without an embedded Oracle database. In
addition, PTC will offer a separate Oracle for Pro/INTRALINK upgrade that
will provide Pro/INTRALINK customers with the continued option of obtaining
Pro/INTRALINK with an embedded Oracle database directly from PTC. This
change will:



** Provide a less costly version of Pro/INTRALINK for customers who may
already own a corporate license of Oracle database or who wish to deal
directly with Oracle (or an Oracle reseller) for their database
configuration requirements.



** Position Pro/INTRALINK customers for support of both Oracle Database
Enterprise Edition (currently supported) and Oracle Database Standard
Edition (beginning on January 1, 2004)



** Allow PTC to introduce a lower priced version of Pro/INTRALINK



o PTC currently bears the cost of Oracle for all customers, even for those
customers that do not require a license because they own a corporate license
of Oracle



o PTC will pass on to our customers a portion of the savings in the form of
lower license fees. A large number of customers will therefore have lower
Pro/INTRALINK license costs.



o Also, customers using the Pro/INTRALINK Gateway to connect Pro/INTRALINK
with Windchill can lower their costs by purchasing a single Full-Use1
license of Oracle Database from Oracle

"





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[DonSenchuk]

First, thanks to everyone that responded, both here and via private email. We're using and upgrading Windchill PDMLink.

Second, now my head hurts.

Answer #1 was that I need to purchase one named user license (of 11g Enterprise.)

Answer #2 talked about Oracle wanting end users to purchase a license for every named user, but also mentioned that we don't need to have an Oracle license for a PTC license that is not being used.

Answer #3 was Ben's (number of licenses for the number of cores on the server (application tier? database tier?) and is totally independent of the nubmer of Windchill users.)

Answer #4 was mostly pricing, with a per-server license option that was independent of user accounts in PDMLink.