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I am still thinking about versioned factor.
Ayyappan
Sasha:
Our system was set up to make WC Name, WC filename and WC NUMBER the same by default, which I believe is a quite common implementation. Afterwe finally realized what the "Common Name" was for and how it related to Pro/E / Creo files and Windchill we decided to use WC Name as the description(I feel that PTC never properly explained what "Common Name" was for when it suddenly appeared some years back).
When we started to use WC Name we just started copyingthe value from a filebased attribute on legacy files, but the attribute frequently was incorrect for various reasons (copying parts and not changing it, overtyping the parameter with text in the drawing format, etc.) and since one of the goals of using WC Name was to clearly indicate what the object was, we had to come up with a formal naming convention document, since we never had one before.
Even the values of the old description parameters that were supposedly "correct" were all over the place, from very clear to chock full of meaningless acronyms that made no sense to anyone, even the originators. This made it diffcult to determine what you were actually looking at, at a glance.
We couldn't use a tool to copy values because of the inconsistency so in order to move forward we have enforced it on all new objects and during revisions to exisiting ones. In addition, we have gone back through released active legacy objects and have renamed many of them on a product by product basis as well. Since we started in January 2011 we have just over 73,000 of just under 93,000 objects using WC Name which is about 79%. The renaming tool in Windchill could be better, but it has been flexible enough to help us using wildcards so that we were able to rename lots of objects in one operation (e.g. by assembly or by family).
For us, the fact that the WC Name is not versioned actually works better for us because once we establish the "proper" name, we can identify all versions easily.We can always find out what it was named when the object was released by looking at the old parameter values.
The immediate benefit is that all the out-of-the-box views now become useful particularly the Structure (BOMs), Related Objects and Family views we use. Search results are instantly readable. Although this can also be done using your own attributes, this is easier since it's baked into the system defaults already.
(Creo's use of "Name" and "Common Name" in the new file command is a constant source of confusion to new users when youhave to explain that Creo Name = WC filename, Creo Common Name = WC Name and WC Number is something else entirely. It doesn't seem very well thought out.)
We've determined that you need to enforce your naming conventions as part of the Release process if you want consistency. In practice this hasn't been a big deal and has been more of a user habit issue than anything else: most of our users aren't too concerned what to call something anyway, so if you say its got to be a certain way, they don't usually have an issue with it.
Andrew Mansfield
KI
Green Bay, WI
In Reply to Sasha Johnson:
We currently have a Creo string parameter DESCRIPTION that is designated in Winchill for our part and assembly drawing descriptions. I'm under the impression many organizations are using Windchill NAME for part and assembly descriptions. Does anybody have any experience with this and input on pros/cons?
Our filename and number are already set up to be synced automatically. It seems to me if we could use name as our description then searches would be tons easier not to mention save-as, table views, ...
Should this be an ideal way to go does anybody have a tool/robot of some kind that would run overnight to automatically modify all objects' names to the value from the existing designated object parameter?
Sasha Johnson
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This is on Windchill objects.
It looks like sql script shown by Mike is straight forward to me. I agree that how to determine which version of (I assume latest version) epmdocument description will be considered to copy to master attribute cad name.
At the same time, it is good to think about the some more details of attribute definition.
Attribute Column Name ---> Display Name --> Upper limit --> Constriant
CADNAME -->DESCRIPTION --> description --> 4000
If we explore Windchill API for EPMDocument, one can notice that epmdocument.getCADName() and epmdocument.getDescription() and set methods on same attributes. As we know that the CADName is not stored in epmdocument table and it is on master table and description gets stored in epmdocument table. So I think it is not a bad idea of exploring API way of updating CADName. Since one no need to worry about what happens when epmdocument.setCADName("xyz.drw") getting executed and API call going to take care of updating right table. I would like to see if people here have different opinion.
You can talk to TS using the following tool in your scenario. May be a custom version of this tool can help.
The TypeAttributeMoveTool command line utility allows you to copy attribute values from one attribute to another attribute for a type and all its subtypes. The source and target attributes can be either standard attributes or global attributes, allowing for the following four scenarios can be used to achieve this requirement. The following steps needs to be done to accomplish the changes.
Before you run the utility:
When you run the tool, for all instances of the specified type:
You must confirm that the desired attribute value was copied by viewing attribute on the object information page after the copy is performed.
Thanks
Ayyappan