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Gucio16-Pearl
16-Pearl
December 13, 2013
Question

total_sheets

  • December 13, 2013
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Hi folks,

in drawing there is parameter &total_sheets. This parameters count number of sheets in drawing. It works ok, but what should be done when last sheet contains only external boundries of sheetmetal parts, and this sheet should not be counted. In other word: how to cheat total_sheet parameter??

Sample:

Bended sheetmetal part is shown on first sheet. On the second sheet unbended part is displayed with necessary dimensions. Last sheet is prepared for manufacturing department so part is in 1:1 scale and without any dimension (last page will be exported as dxf). So in general from customer point of view drawing contain only 2 sheets, but total_sheet = 3.

Do you have any idea how to solve it??

thx in advance for any suggesition.


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DARYLREECE1-Visitor
1-Visitor
December 13, 2013

Calculate your own drawing parameter as a relation. &my_sheets=&total_sheets-1.

I haven't tested it, but it should work.

If you do this on every type of part, bury the relation in the template for those types.

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Gucio16-PearlAuthor
16-Pearl
December 13, 2013

thx for your respond,

but in fact it does not work. as far as I know, there is no possibility to use total_sheets in relation.

Total_sheets is hidden and could not be used in "normal" way.

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neomechanikos1-Visitor
1-Visitor
December 13, 2013

Unfortunately there is no such thing as a drawing relation. The only ways to solve this that I know of (as of Creo 2.0) are the following:

  • Create a manually driven drawing parameter that represents the total number of sheets and use that in the format. You will have to remember to increment it manually if you add/remove a sheet but at least you won't have to do it on every sheet.
  • Instead of creating a new sheet for an flattened pattern, use the same sheet but move it off of the format plot area. Sheet count will be correct but you will have to manually plot each flattened state "sheet".
  • Use two drawings. One for the actual part count and another for the flattened states. The sheets will have to be organized after they are printed or in a separate program (i.e. PDF) if using an electronic copy.

Companies I've worked at in the past use the first method.

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Gucio16-PearlAuthor
16-Pearl
December 16, 2013

Thx Eric,

your suggestions are clear for me.

  • first method can caused problem when user forget to change custom parameter. Be aware that during pesales process, Creo is presented as as fully parametric software. So now asking customers to do something manually -could not be accepted by lazy guys.
  • it is ok when u plot drawing manually.
  • I've also though about using 2 drawing.

I was also concedering solution when there are to diferent drawing formats: one for smt, other for solid parts. In that way of thinking your first solutions could be used, but instead of adding additional parametr I suggest to put number of sheets as a note (static).

again - thx for your answer.

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KiranJ.1-Visitor
1-Visitor
December 16, 2013

Simply, put notes on each sheet that

like for customer sheets, 'sheet # of # sheet is for customer use only. for manufacturing use sheet #' and vice versa. It gives clear instructions to the user.

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Gucio16-PearlAuthor
16-Pearl
December 16, 2013

"Simply" - it means manually??. there is no way to ask customer to count sheets, and force him to write it in note. Why there is no possibility to write simply relation in drawing: "my_total_sheets=total_sheets:D - 1" ??

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dschenken1-Visitor
1-Visitor
December 16, 2013

He was referring to work that you do:

On sheet 1: SHEET 1 OF 3 IS FOR CUSTOMER USE

On sheet 2: SHEET 2 OF 3 IS FOR CUSTOMER USE

On sheet 3: SHEET 3 OF 3 IS FOR MANUFACTURING USE

is how it could appear, with the text being supplied by use of the correct format for the sheet.

As you said in your first post - you want to cheat. Cheating is not something that should be easy to do.

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    Gucio16-PearlAuthor
    16-Pearl
    December 16, 2013

    So please cross out 'cheat', and instead of it answer a question: is there any 'smart' way to show parameter in drawing that will be calculate in a following way: my_total_sheets=total_sheets:d -1;?

    In a sample, when the third sheet contains information for manufacturing, guy that will have to sign a paper documentation for sure will say:'you give me only 2 sheets, where is the last one?'. Last page is not printable.

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