Bulk Item Balloon - Possible to have different quantity on bottom of split?

[JohnWenner]

I'm looking to use PARAMETRIC balloons for all the Bulk Items.  We use Split Balloons for all our drawings.  In the past we would create a FAKE balloon, with the format 9/AR (for something like Adhesive).  If you use Parametric, we would get 9/1 (Find Number/QTY).  Is there a way to change the bottom QTY number?

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[BenLoosli]

Can you use a relation like you do in the BOM repeat region to change Bulk Items to a QTY of AR?

[JohnWenner]

I've also noticed the BULK items don't work as nice in CREO as previous versions.  In the past, we could put ONE bulk item in the Model Tree and use it multiple times on the drawing.  Now, if we want to show the same balloon 10 times, we would have to add that bulk item 10 times.  Am I missing a setting possibly?

[mender]

What you want to do is to employ a 'custom bom balloon symbol'.  You make up a split circle symbol (you can copy the standard one form the loadpoint to save time making it) that uses 'rpt.rel.balloonqty' instead of 'rpt.qty'.  In your repeat region, you use a relation to set this to rpt.qty for regular parts and AR for bulk parts.

[msmith]

This process is fully documented in TS article https://support.ptc.com/appserver/cs/view/solution.jsp?n=CS40474 .